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Michael W. Taft
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🦇 Sentient comet 💫 Meditation freak 🙏🏻 Teacher 🍄 Author 🎙Podcaster 📚 SF nerd 🤖 Serial comma enthusiast 🌏 Raised by wolves 🐺 Bad influence 🧝🏻‍♂️

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    1. Shaunyata‏ @shaunbartone Jun 13
      Replying to @OortCloudAtlas

      Here’s my take on the two doctrines: about 2/3 way down this blog post are my definitions of both.

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    2. Michael W. Taft‏ @OortCloudAtlas Jun 13
      Replying to @shaunbartone

      ?

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    3. Shaunyata‏ @shaunbartone Jun 13
      Replying to @OortCloudAtlas

      Oops!https://dharmanerds.wordpress.com/2018/06/13/buddhist-infusion/ …

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    4. Michael W. Taft‏ @OortCloudAtlas Jun 13
      Replying to @shaunbartone

      Interesting article. Buddhism as the "ultimate let down" I agree with. The way you limit emptiness to just no-self and impermanence, however, is not the usual understanding.

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    5. Shaunyata‏ @shaunbartone Jun 13
      Replying to @OortCloudAtlas

      I also tagged on dependent origination. What else would add to the definition?

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    6. Michael W. Taft‏ @OortCloudAtlas Jun 13
      Replying to @shaunbartone

      Mainly that objects aren't even objects, but just thought to be so by convention. Your text could imply that, but I'd make it explicit.

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    7. Shaunyata‏ @shaunbartone Jun 13
      Replying to @OortCloudAtlas

      True, but I said at the end of the paragraph ‘They are all transformations of energy, expressions of physical laws, the fundamental forces of the universe itself.’

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    8. Shaunyata‏ @shaunbartone Jun 13
      Replying to @shaunbartone @OortCloudAtlas

      Which is still something more than ‘absolute emptiness’, but the current scientific consensus is that absolute emptiness is not physically possible.

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    9. Failed Buddhist‏ @Failed_Buddhist Jun 13
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      Emptiness is not the same as "empty space", or "nothing", in the physical sense. It's not meant as a metaphysical description of reality. For Nagarjuna, asserting that an object "doesn't really exist" is just as flawed as asserting that it has ultimate/independent existence.

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    10. Failed Buddhist‏ @Failed_Buddhist Jun 13
      Replying to @Failed_Buddhist @shaunbartone @OortCloudAtlas

      The point is that you can't even talk about objects existing or not existing, because neither extreme adequately reflects the reality of interdependence. So I think you're right to link it to interdependence.

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      Michael W. Taft‏ @OortCloudAtlas Jun 13
      Replying to @Failed_Buddhist @shaunbartone

      For the record I said that objects aren’t even objects, which is something quite different than saying they do or don’t exist. This mystery at the heart of objects (what anything actually “is”) can never be resolved—and to me that is wonderful.

      5:37 PM - 13 Jun 2018
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        2. Failed Buddhist‏ @Failed_Buddhist Jun 13
          Replying to @OortCloudAtlas @shaunbartone

          Right, that was a good way to frame it. Objects aren't so much "objects" as they are events (the event being a particular combination of causes and conditions).

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        3. Michael W. Taft‏ @OortCloudAtlas Jun 13
          Replying to @Failed_Buddhist @shaunbartone

          A truly twisted and fun discussion about something similar, from the fun and twisted @erik_davis and Timothy Morton. (The 2nd half of the podcast in particular.)https://techgnosis.com/uncanny-objects/ …

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