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Michael W. Taft
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Michael W. Taft

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🦇 Sentient comet 💫 Meditation freak 🙏🏻 Teacher 🍄 Author 🎙Podcaster 📚 SF nerd 🤖 Serial comma enthusiast 🌏 Raised by wolves 🐺 Bad influence 🧝🏻‍♂️

Oakland, CA
deconstructingyourself.com
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    1. Michael W. Taft‏ @OortCloudAtlas May 31

      Stoked to be doing another interview with @Culadasa tomorrow!

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    2. No-Self Help‏ @NoSelfHelp May 31
      Replying to @OortCloudAtlas @Culadasa

      Maybe you can get him to weigh in on the recent meditation and attention debate.

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    3. Jody ⚡️‏ @Kalieezchild May 31
      Replying to @NoSelfHelp @OortCloudAtlas @Culadasa

      My contention is that much of the benefits of meditation roll directly out of the increase in attentional acuity, rather than something we need learn by following doctrines.

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      Michael W. Taft‏ @OortCloudAtlas May 31
      Replying to @Kalieezchild @NoSelfHelp @Culadasa

      OK. I def agree that attention is awesome and doctrines aren't. My contention (since we're having contentions today 😂) is that attention on its own can lead to real trouble. And that even increasing attention requires understanding how to work w/ emotional/mental blocks.

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        2. Jody ⚡️‏ @Kalieezchild May 31
          Replying to @OortCloudAtlas @NoSelfHelp @Culadasa

          So what you are saying is that there is a potential hazard in using a simple mediation technique to develop attentional skill if it is not founded in some kind of moral scheme?

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        3. Michael W. Taft‏ @OortCloudAtlas May 31
          Replying to @Kalieezchild @NoSelfHelp @Culadasa

          I'm more concerned with the idea that just concentration alone will do it. Like I posted in the "doubling down" tweet, more finesse is required to keep people happy and healthy. Just brute force attention can for many be too much.

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        4. Peter McEwen‏ @techgnostic May 31
          Replying to @OortCloudAtlas @Kalieezchild and

          I'm watching this debate and I think you are both pursuing different end goals? Jody seems to be erring on the side of no ego fixation and Michael on the side of dissolving ego-fixation but retaining a tether to developmental and moral play. Is this accurate?

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        5. Michael W. Taft‏ @OortCloudAtlas May 31
          Replying to @techgnostic @Kalieezchild and

          Maybe. I'm really just wanting to point out that the instruction "just get as concentrated as possible" (which is not exactly what Jody is saying, but can easily be misconstrued as what he is saying) is somewhat misleading and also possibly dangerous.

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        6. Jody ⚡️‏ @Kalieezchild May 31
          Replying to @OortCloudAtlas @techgnostic and

          My instruction would be to quietly and without judgement bring attention back to object, that this gesture is really what it is all about, and that there is no goal other than to continue this gesture in meditation for as long as you are alive. The benefits will fall from this.

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        7. No-Self Help‏ @NoSelfHelp Jun 1
          Replying to @Kalieezchild @OortCloudAtlas and

          "Attention is the most basic form of love."https://www.tarabrach.com/attention-the-most-basic-form-of-love/ …

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        2. Jody ⚡️‏ @Kalieezchild May 31
          Replying to @OortCloudAtlas @NoSelfHelp @Culadasa

          I’d like to contend here that just putting attention back to focus when blocks arise is the best way to deal with them, but I’m less than 100% sure of that.

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        3. Michael W. Taft‏ @OortCloudAtlas May 31
          Replying to @Kalieezchild @NoSelfHelp @Culadasa

          Just doubling down on the concentration in some cases can cause all sorts of kundalini crackups, PTSD meltdowns, mental fractures, psychotic breaks, and so forth. An understanding and familiarity with 1) equanimity and 2) something like metta or "focus on positive" is required.

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