SPT (Morty)

Cloud is bad. From what I’ve seen: -Non limit up b is the same as smash 4 -Limit goes away after 15 seconds -Up air doesnt hit grounded opponents -Dair has more lag -Nair is smaller FUCKCLOUDMOVEMENT

He definitely seems good to me

Idk man

This is called balancing...

He's probably still gonna be better than most of the non fluent archetypes that exist in smash, it just sounds like he'll be like...an upper mid tier(?) or so this time around

I think he’s still going to be a top tier. Just either on the bottom or high tier. His hitboxes were already ridiculous so Sakurai toning them down and making him much less threatening with that and limit was needed without making him piss weak or nerfed to the ground.

I think the limit change is low key huge, can't threaten with LCS for extended periods of time/ weakens his recovery/can't sit on limit for the movement buff, definitely the biggest nerf of them all, just can't tell yet without seeing the power level of the game overall

I believe that was their way of balancing him. His damage, ledgeguarding, and neutral will still be solid. With the 1 airdodge it makes his juggling even stronger than it was before so now if they burn ad he can potentially kill them with or without limit.