man, it's so dumb how both feminists and men's rights activists will be like "yeah! fuck gendered norms and roles!" but then also just hate each other because of vocal minorities stirring shit. Like, they have the same end goals. Elimination of gender norms & roles.
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was gonna say Ive yet to see an mra that wasnt alt right or similar There's legit issues but mra doesn't address them
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I think those who actually care about such things would say they're feminist. But an mra would never say that
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Yeah, I think most men that care about equity realize anyone not male gets the short end of the stick in almost every area in society (except custody of children stuff between parents) and thus just self-identify as feminists.
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I'd really like to think that a lot of men who actually want to oppose male gender roles (and not just complain that it's women's fault for gender roles being a thing) would ID as feminists and be advocating for folks of all genders, but I worry that you might be right
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