I’m imagining the same product and support as open source, and basically the same value proposition as a donation (eg no promise to support anything), but coming under a different name that is more inline with university procurement services (eg an invoice for a product).
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Replying to @KyleCranmer @danielskatz and
I hadn't found the university side to be a problem. Gifts seem to work well. Usually the problem is to create a value proposition for the company, in my experience.
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Replying to @amuellerml @danielskatz and
Accepting gifts isn’t a problem, the bottleneck is finding the source for the funds. I don’t think I can use my grant money to make a gift to NumFocus. Maybe It’s possible technically (I doubt it), but it’s certainly not something you would normally budget into a grant.
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Replying to @amuellerml @KyleCranmer and
I think I misunderstood your "via federal funding" part, makes more sense now. I never imagined it to come from someone else's funds.
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Replying to @amuellerml @danielskatz and
I don’t have any evidence, but “my gut” tells me that there are a reasonable number of PIs that would not hesitate to budget in $500-1000 into a federal grant so that they could “purchase” open source scientific software.
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Replying to @KyleCranmer @amuellerml and
I think one challenge (as
@amuellerml pointed out to me) is that many OSS projects aren't structured to know what to do with cash if it came in. There's some organizational R&D to be done there too3 replies 1 retweet 4 likes -
Replying to @choldgraf @KyleCranmer and
One problem is having the project manage and spend funds, the other problem is credit assignment. How do you decide who to give money to?
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Replying to @amuellerml @choldgraf and
I agree, but those are good problems to have ;-) I’m focusing on the first part, but there need to be organizational structures to manage the downstream use of the funds. I would think those “problems” also apply to the gift mechanism.
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Replying to @KyleCranmer @choldgraf and
Yes that's true. Basically sklearn has solved the problem twice (Columbia and inria foundation). Numpy can do BIDS. Matplotlib has no such infrastructure afaik.
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I can't seem to find the "top" of this thread, but NumFOCUS is a natural place for this type of funding to land for Matplotlib, NumPy, and many others.
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Replying to @NumFOCUS @amuellerml and
Chris Holdgraf Retweeted Kyle Cranmer
I believe this is the top!https://twitter.com/KyleCranmer/status/1070663847072198657 …
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Kyle Cranmer @KyleCranmerI was thinking about how to support critical open source scientific software via federal funding. I’m not sure what is allowed exactly, but “donations” seem like the wrong mechanism. Paying for a product is easier technically. Is it possible to optionally sell the free software?Show this thread0 replies 0 retweets 3 likesThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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