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Professor at Stern School, NYU, CEO of Roubini Macro Associates, CoFounder of Rosa & Roubini @RosaRoubini, Author of Crisis Economics, Time 100 Most Influential

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    Nouriel Roubini‏Verified account @Nouriel Oct 10

    Nouriel Roubini Retweeted Vitalik Non-giver of Ether

    Vitalik, just shut up & speak about stuff that you can claim u know a lil about. You have promising Proof of Stake since 2013 & we are still waiting for a system that is scalable, decentralized & secure. But that is impossible as your inconsistent trinity principle proves.https://twitter.com/VitalikButerin/status/1050103887170957312 …

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    Vitalik Non-giver of EtherVerified account @VitalikButerin
    I officially predict a financial crisis some time between now and 2021. Not because I have any special knowledge or even actually think that, but so that I can have a ~25% (or whatever) chance of later being publicly acclaimed as "a guru who predicted the last financial crisis".
    12:36 PM - 10 Oct 2018
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      2. Vitalik Non-giver of Ether‏Verified account @VitalikButerin Oct 10
        Replying to @Nouriel

        Umm... the scalability trilemma was about scalable blockchains, not PoS; those are two separate topics. And the trilemma was never an impossibility result, it was claiming that getting 3 of 3 is *hard*.

        18 replies 36 retweets 446 likes
      3. Vitalik Non-giver of Ether‏Verified account @VitalikButerin Oct 10
        Replying to @VitalikButerin @Nouriel

        And the design is basically done and we're in the development stages now.

        9 replies 11 retweets 187 likes
      4. J. Bernardo Costa‏ @jbddc Oct 10
        Replying to @VitalikButerin @Nouriel

        You are still responding to this clown? He claims "kids" shouldn't talk about economics and monetary policy as they can't know nothing about it, yet gives pseudo-informed commentaries and criticisms on distributed systems and computer science. Go figure.

        3 replies 0 retweets 84 likes
      5. Stuof Nad‏ @halvgr Oct 10
        Replying to @jbddc @VitalikButerin @Nouriel

        Double negative much? “Can’t know anything”.

        1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
      6. J. Bernardo Costa‏ @jbddc Oct 10
        Replying to @halvgr @VitalikButerin @Nouriel

        Couldn't bother not to correct it. ;)

        1 reply 0 retweets 8 likes
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      2. Gary Kreps‏ @GaryKreps Oct 10
        Replying to @Nouriel

        Why are you engaging this guy.? For those of us who were around in the pre-GFC period you were the lead and early voice in sounding the alarm on the housing and mortgage-backed crisis PERIOD.

        3 replies 2 retweets 19 likes
      3. Ari Paul‏Verified account @AriDavidPaul Oct 10
        Replying to @GaryKreps @Nouriel

        Nouriel did an amazing job in the lead up to the financial crisis, not just making generic bearish claims, but providing great detail on the how's and why's. Contrast his work from that time with his work today (on crypto, or anything else) and it seems like a different person.

        7 replies 1 retweet 48 likes
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      5. Ari Paul‏Verified account @AriDavidPaul Oct 10
        Replying to @SelectaCrypto @GaryKreps @Nouriel

        He was substantially early. Again, I give him props not for market timing but for fundamental analysis. He didn't make a bear call, he made a very specific call about how the real estate and financial markets would unravel.

        5 replies 0 retweets 22 likes
      6. Cyrus Younessi‏ @cyounessi1 Oct 10
        Replying to @AriDavidPaul @SelectaCrypto and

        What do you think we all see in crypto that he (seemingly) misses? How can his interpretation be so 180 from ours?

        2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
      7. Ari Paul‏Verified account @AriDavidPaul Oct 10
        Replying to @cyounessi1 @SelectaCrypto and

        I think he's partly trolling and brand building. Partly, he's skeptical of the demand for, or value of, money outside government control.

        2 replies 1 retweet 34 likes
      8. FAMUAce‏ @FAMUAce Oct 10
        Replying to @AriDavidPaul @cyounessi1 and

        Honest question: how does one become wealthy from crypto?

        5 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      9. Evgeny Pogrebnyak‏ @PogrebnyakE Oct 10
        Replying to @FAMUAce @AriDavidPaul and

        Honest answer: same as with money - some do and some dont.

        1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
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      2. Life after Wall Street‏ @hockeypuck2515 Oct 10
        Replying to @Nouriel

        I thought #crypto was supposed to be uncorrelated to broad markets??? Seems programming nerds and tinhat peeps don't really know what they're talking about.

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Ari Paul‏Verified account @AriDavidPaul Oct 10
        Replying to @hockeypuck2515 @Nouriel

        I don't know what "supposed to be" means here. For historical correlations, you can run regressions yourself easily.

        1 reply 0 retweets 11 likes
      4. Life after Wall Street‏ @hockeypuck2515 Oct 10
        Replying to @AriDavidPaul @Nouriel

        Of course I can. But it periods of chaos, while correlations do break down, those with a "supposed" negative correlation should outperform. For example, 2s outperforming stocks. Gold outperforming stocks.

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Ari Paul‏Verified account @AriDavidPaul Oct 10
        Replying to @hockeypuck2515 @Nouriel

        Treasuries are a great example. There have been long historical periods of positive correlation, and long historical periods of negative correlation. Complex topic. There's never been a consensus among crypto enthusiasts of forward looking negative correlation.

        2 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
      6. Life after Wall Street‏ @hockeypuck2515 Oct 10
        Replying to @AriDavidPaul @Nouriel

        Come on Ari, it's the "asset" class of the end of days peeps. In other words when fiat dies, crypto will survive. That's the epitome of negative correlation.

        3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. Ari Paul‏Verified account @AriDavidPaul Oct 10
        Replying to @hockeypuck2515 @Nouriel

        Negative correlation with fiat...not equities. In recessions, cash becomes more valuable generally, so a negative correlation with fiat would predict crypto falls in average recessions.

        3 replies 0 retweets 18 likes
      8. Ari Paul‏Verified account @AriDavidPaul Oct 10
        Replying to @AriDavidPaul @hockeypuck2515 @Nouriel

        2/ and the prediction even on that front is never made about day to day or even year to year market pricing of fiat. It's specifically viewed as negatively correlated in the tail scenario, kind of like CDS on AAA debt.

        1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
      9. Life after Wall Street‏ @hockeypuck2515 Oct 10
        Replying to @AriDavidPaul @Nouriel

        CDS on AAA is way cheaper than crypto that 1) is barely a medium of exchange, and 2) fraught with fraud. Seems like tether will finally take down bitfinex?

        1 reply 1 retweet 3 likes
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