Interesting, sounds like what I’m looking for is the exact opposite of this.https://twitter.com/made_in_cosmos/status/1245240885618622464?s=21 …
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Tell me more? You piqued my curiosity :)
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Any idea I have about liberation, suffering, death, etc is just this. An idea. A concept in my head. To actually know what it’s like I need to let go of every such idea so that it doesn’t stand between me and the real thing. This isn’t taking refuge, it’s jumping into fire.
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Replying to @made_in_cosmos @Timber_22 and
I think this may be a connotation problem. Believing one's own ideas, concepts, etc is taking refuge in oneself, one's own habits. Taking refuge is precisely the act of turning away from those and toward reality.
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Replying to @Buddh_ish @made_in_cosmos and
Taking refuge **in awakening, or the three jewels, or whatever, is precisely the act of....
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Replying to @Buddh_ish @made_in_cosmos and
Like, in short, you're always going to SOMETHING for refuge, as where you "go" mentally to relate to the world. Most of the time this is just your own concepts. So deciding to go for refuge somewhere else is an act of opening up, not hiding.
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Replying to @Buddh_ish @made_in_cosmos and
And the joke is, in Buddhism, (it's also a great mercy) that "Buddha", "Dharma" and "Sangha" are also concepts. That you "go" to, mentally. It helps that they are (usually) more wholesome than other sources of refuge. And what happens is a kind of bait and switch...
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Replying to @Timber_22 @Buddh_ish and
initially you need the support of concepts of refuges [or maybe not; some people get there right away, or were already there] and those help you practice and actually cultivate the internal changes that come from practice at that point, you don't need the support of concepts...
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Replying to @Timber_22 @made_in_cosmos and
In some phrasings this is made explicit by making them a subtler and subtler concept until in the end it's something like: "Buddha" means reality "Dharma" means reality "Sangha" means reality
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Replying to @Buddh_ish @made_in_cosmos and
I once offered a version to a very straight-edged secular friend: To take refuge in.... "Buddha" = Awake - ness "Dharma" = Aligned - ness "Sangha" = Relating
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Similarly, I've heard...
"Buddha" = Gone
"Dharma" = Going
"Sangha" = Goers

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