Likewise. Liberation is the goal, regardless of which path, renunciative and non-renunciative alike. To compound suffering with further suffering is the goal of neither.
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What does liberation mean actually? Is it freedom from negative emotions? Some bird’s eye view insight that’s independent of emotions? Eternal bliss and joy? Something completely different?
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In the broadest sense, liberation is freedom from suffering, dissatisfaction, unease.
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How exactly is that supposed to work? When people I love are sick, dying, or suicidal then sure as hell it’s gonna make me feel uneasy even if I know deep down inside it’s all a role in cosmic game.
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One way it *might* work is there's a sense of not fighting against impermanence. That can take up a lot of "space" inside, and require a lot of energy, psychologically speaking.
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Replying to @Timber_22 @made_in_cosmos and
A narrative can be running, subconsciously, that a loved one should not be dying [let's bracket off covid for a sec; quick, pretend its 2019 for the sake of this one point] and there's this psychic energy that has to be recruited into that fight against how things are
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Replying to @Timber_22 @made_in_cosmos and
Paradoxically, when we can make some kind of peace-accord with Impermanence, that can allow us to re-allocate inner (even subconscious) resources, which opens up more opportunities to show up for others in ways like what
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Yes, accepting impermanence sounds like something totally different than freedom from suffering. The wisest people I know are still people. They get tired, hungry, frustrated, impatient. They have kids they care deeply about.
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Totally. This, so much
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Replying to @Timber_22 @made_in_cosmos and
OK, so a word about "freedom from suffering". That's one word chosen to translate dukkha into English, and it's actually pretty good. But there are other ways to do it...
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The original connotation of dukkha encompasses the image of a misconfigured wheel and axel, discombobulated, throwing the cart off-kilter.
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