Yeah. This kind of cold indifferent detachment is kinda the opposite of what I’m working towards. I have no idea about Buddhism but it seems some schools actually have this as their goal? Why would anyone on Earth want that?https://twitter.com/meaningness/status/1242553323435118592?s=21 …
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Replying to @made_in_cosmos @PeterBorah
B/c original Buddhism was formulated to solve a problem inherent to pan-Indic (c ~500 BCE) understanding of Life, The Universe & Everything.
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Siddhatta used yogic methods to develop a psychotechnology that if applied rigorously, would extinguish the flame that kept the moth coming back, lifetime after lifetime.
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Extremely noteworthy that Siddhattha (if he was indeed a real human) was a wealthy noble. He lived about as good as it got back in the Iron Age. He had everything in an earthly sense that people knew enough to want back then. He eventually arrived at wanting off the carousel
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Also super-duper noteworthy that Siddhattha was perhaps the first person in written history to be trauma-free as a child/adolescent, and then get MASSIVELY traumatized at twenty-nine.
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Three of the Four Sights must have rattled Siddhattha's cage super, super hard
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The state of saṃvega or existential shock is too often conflated with maladaptive mood and catatonia. The fourth sight invokes pasāda, a serene confidence that enables the wayfaring necessary for liberation.
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i don't disagree about this
but I will always champion those who look for non-renunciative means to find liberation.
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Likewise. Liberation is the goal, regardless of which path, renunciative and non-renunciative alike. To compound suffering with further suffering is the goal of neither.
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What does liberation mean actually? Is it freedom from negative emotions? Some bird’s eye view insight that’s independent of emotions? Eternal bliss and joy? Something completely different?
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In the broadest sense, liberation is freedom from suffering, dissatisfaction, unease.
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How exactly is that supposed to work? When people I love are sick, dying, or suicidal then sure as hell it’s gonna make me feel uneasy even if I know deep down inside it’s all a role in cosmic game.
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That's an entirely natural and necessary response. For some, however, a state of ease (clear, unfrazzled, equanimous compassion) maintains throughout disease. It might sound counterintuitive, but it's entirely possible, and can even enhance ("smooth out") the quality of care.
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