Hmm, something about being a dispassionate observer, I think? Turns out I care a lot about this moment, and feel eager to jump into conversations and let my emotions be part of who I am.
Those may be their experiences, but the goal is not to produce a state akin to deep depression or any other form of dukkha. That much is misleading.
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And, one of the insights that perhaps might have been present at the origin of tantric Buddhism is that renunciative practice *often* does induce those states (whether or not that's the goal). It almost reliably does in a certain % of ppl (again, even though that's not the goal)
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All sorts of practice will induce myriad varieties of states for different people. There was mention, however, that "deep depression" is not easily distinguishable from the goal of Buddhist practice, which fails to do justice to the intent and purpose of saṃvega, etc.
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