My experience with this coming and going of presence has in many ways left me the odd man out. Do not even know how to ask meaningful questions. Here is a hesitant question. Do you see the movement of thought as it rises from the foundation blooming and becoming?
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Replying to @memeristor @NoaidiX
Is the ability to follow multiple thought streams an aberration or a skill? IE engage in a internal chant and visualize an image simultaneously. If skill what to do with it?
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Existence requires engagement. Is it possible to exist without a self? Does ones Buddha nature itself, constitute a self? I wonder if when you are reading following the words you have observed the moment when imagination comes into the process? 2 streams 1 verbal 1 visual
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Flowers exist, conventionally. Do flowers have selves, ultimately? For Dōgen, impermanence is Buddha nature. Multiple streams of impermanence converge. Water is wet. Who are you?
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Replying to @NoaidiX
Flowers are perfectly self conscious within the domain of their physicality. Remember I accept panpsyhism as reasonable. Commonly I am attention in either a passive or active relationship to sense and previously registered impressions Essentially a bit more then a reactive self
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They may be self-conscious, but are they conscious of a *metaphysically substantial, enduring self*?
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Replying to @NoaidiX @memeristor
Moreover, are "you" conscious of a *metaphysically substantial, enduring self*?
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Need to sit with that question for awhile if not a long while.
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Replying to @memeristor @NoaidiX
"metaphysically substantial, enduring self" Would you be so kind as to rephrase the above. Reading "Aquinas: Metaphysics" Generally it is my position that matter and energy represent one and the same thing. As to enduring self everything is in movement constantly changing.
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Substantial in the sense alluded to in the earlier distinction between substance metaphysics and process metaphysics. Enduring (permanent, fixed, unchanging) as opposed to impermanent. Metaphysically substantial, enduring self = some-"thing" bearing fixed identity across time.
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If some-"thing" is in process of arising/ceasing or is in movement, constantly changing, then it bears no identity over time and cannot be rightfully called a "self" in any ultimate capacity.
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Replying to @memeristor @NoaidiX
Self as a product of the contents of the alaya vijnana is without enduring substance. Self as a product of practice has different properties and possibilities and is more enduring. This self is no longer entirely a product of the A. V. Yet not sufficiently dev to be independent
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