1/4 A provocative paper by Tim Bayne @anilkseth and Marcello Massimini. I'm not yet convinced and am inclined to think no awareness is an island, but the possibility deserves serious considerationhttps://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0166223619302164 …
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Replying to @evantthompson @anilkseth
Not having had time to read it in full, but... this is an interesting idea to explore in connection with certain meditative achievements (e.g. cessations)?
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I have a strong suspicion that cessation experiences preserve *minimal* embodiment (this is part of what lies behind claims about the ālayavijñāna and bhavaṅga, right?), but I would love to see anything any of you know on attempts to explore this!
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Yes, I suspect that is true. When I think about cessation I curse my ignorance of neuroscience (I toy with the idea of a second degree just to study the phenomenon).
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Replying to @AtaraxJim @anilkseth
The puzzle of the cessations for the ancient Buddhists was that the body stays alive while mental activity progressively attenuates but then restarts. So it's a case opposite to what the article is about: living body present, conscious mental activity absent.
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Replying to @evantthompson @AtaraxJim
I didn’t know about the phenomenon of cessation. If this connotes a living body without conscious mind, wouldn’t it be more similar to conditions like vegetative state? (Than an island of awareness)
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Replying to @anilkseth @AtaraxJim
Yes, Robert Sharf makes that connection in this paperhttps://www.academia.edu/26441099/Is_Nirv%C4%81%E1%B9%87a_the_Same_as_Insentience_Chinese_Struggles_with_an_Indian_Buddhist_Ideal …
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This is such a complex issue though! If part of what is happening is the stabilizing of attention to the point where you stop being responsive to inputs, why is it not more like dreamless sleep, or would that preserve too much lucidity to count as nirodha-samāpatti?
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The mindless samādhi-s (both asaṃjñā samāpatti and nirodha samāpatti), along with dreamless sleep, coma, and other significant interruptions of ordinary consciousness challenge the diachronic unity of consciousness. This is the subject of my second master's thesis. 1/
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Replying to @NoaidiX @evantthompson and
For more on this subject, see De Warren, Nicolas. "The inner night: Towards a phenomenology of (dreamless) sleep." In On Time—New Contributions to the Husserlian Phenomenology of Time. Ed. Dieter Lohmar and Ichiro Yamaguchi. Dordrecht: Springer, 2010: 273-294. Also Xuanzang. 2/2
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