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Bloomberg Opinion writer. Recovering neoliberal shill and aspiring anime fan. Occasionally posts about rabbits.

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    Noah Smith  🐇‏Verified account @Noahpinion 9 Dec 2017

    1/One of the most wrongheaded and persistent ideas floating around on social media is the idea of an "intellectual bubble".

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      2. Noah Smith  🐇‏Verified account @Noahpinion 9 Dec 2017

        2/Stated simply, this is the idea that if you block or ignore people with opposing views, you will live in an echo chamber of confirmation bias. In fact, the opposite might be true. (This insight is due to @jesseXjesse, I should mention).

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      3. Noah Smith  🐇‏Verified account @Noahpinion 9 Dec 2017

        3/The reason this is wrong is that people - including smart people - don't think about issues reasonably. We think tribally.https://www.vox.com/2014/4/6/5556462/brain-dead-how-politics-makes-us-stupid …

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      4. Noah Smith  🐇‏Verified account @Noahpinion 9 Dec 2017

        4/When we fail to curate the views we take in, we are naturally and automatically overexposed to the most strident, extremist, unreasonable representatives of the opposing tribe. http://noahpinionblog.blogspot.com/2017/06/the-shouting-class.html …

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      5. Noah Smith  🐇‏Verified account @Noahpinion 9 Dec 2017

        5/But if I curate my feed by blocking or ignoring the most strident/aggressive/unreasonable members of the opposing tribe, it's a lot easier to listen to the REASONABLE people from that tribe.

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      6. Noah Smith  🐇‏Verified account @Noahpinion 9 Dec 2017

        6/Let's take a concrete example. Suppose I didn't block Nazis. In that case, it might be a lot harder to listen to reasonable conservatives like @DouthatNYT or @lymanstoneky, because I might mistakenly assume they were on the same "team" as the Nazis.

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      7. Noah Smith  🐇‏Verified account @Noahpinion 9 Dec 2017

        7/In fact, when I look back at my early years on Twitter, I see myself making EXACTLY this mistake - raging at moderate conservatives, traditionalists, or libertarians. Then I started blocking Nazis, and it got a LOT easier to listen to differing perspectives.

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      8. Noah Smith  🐇‏Verified account @Noahpinion 9 Dec 2017

        8/In other words, blocking extremists doesn't CREATE an intellectual bubble. It PREVENTS intellectual bubbles. TRIBALISM is what creates bubbles.

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      9. Noah Smith  🐇‏Verified account @Noahpinion 9 Dec 2017

        9/Therefore, in order to keep an open mind, I urge you to either block or ignore all extremists from tribes you aren't part of. Doing so will allow the moderate, reasonable voices of that tribe to reach your ears. And you will gain a more balanced worldview. (end)

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      10. Noah Smith  🐇‏Verified account @Noahpinion 9 Dec 2017

        Oh, and always remember: Mute is for your own peace of mind. Block is to protect your readers and improve the quality of the discussion in your feed.

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      2. Tony Yates‏ @t0nyyates 11 Dec 2017
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        Potential future Nazi or similar interlocutors can use this against you. Luring you into discussions with reasonable sounding bait, only later pouncing, when you are exhausted and your logical patience over extended.

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      3. Noah Smith  🐇‏Verified account @Noahpinion 11 Dec 2017
        Replying to @t0nyyates

        But who cares if they do? :-)

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      4. Tony Yates‏ @t0nyyates 12 Dec 2017
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        You do. Because you are trying to filter and fend off extremists, and get out with your sanity. But actually any one of us could turn out to be your future nemesis.

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      5. Noah Smith  🐇‏Verified account @Noahpinion 12 Dec 2017
        Replying to @t0nyyates

        My sanity? Waaaaaaay too late for that, hoss. I'm trying to get out with YOUR sanity.

        1 reply 0 retweets 12 likes
      6. Tony Yates‏ @t0nyyates Mar 7
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        Wait I never claimed that Mott and Bailey tactics were effective. You're misrepresenting me and putting words in my mouth. What I said was that the internet was dangerous. [This one needs work].

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      2. MichaelKitces‏Verified account @MichaelKitces 9 Dec 2017
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        This is a very interesting thread... RT @Noahpinion: 1/One of the most wrongheaded and persistent ideas floating around on social media is the idea of an "intellectual bubble".

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      3. Noah Smith  🐇‏Verified account @Noahpinion 9 Dec 2017
        Replying to @MichaelKitces

        If you use quote-tweet, they can follow the thread to the rest of the tweets! :-)

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      4. MichaelKitces‏Verified account @MichaelKitces 9 Dec 2017
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        Was a good thread. I actually proactively try to find/follow people that I may actively disagree with. It's good perspective. But as you note, I "aim high" in following quality. And block those who add no value at all.

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      5. Noah Smith  🐇‏Verified account @Noahpinion 9 Dec 2017
        Replying to @MichaelKitces

        Thanks!!

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