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Bloomberg Opinion writer. Recovering neoliberal shill and aspiring anime fan. Occasionally posts about rabbits.

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    1. Noah Smith  🐇‏Verified account @Noahpinion Mar 14

      Data conclusively shows that the "incel" view of sex is wrong: Few American men are celibate, and most are monogamous within a given year.http://simondedeo.com/?p=221 

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    2. Noah Smith  🐇‏Verified account @Noahpinion Mar 14

      Noah Smith  🐇 Retweeted Rabbert Mueller

      This thread has yet more data showing the same thing, and broken down by age group:https://twitter.com/latenitenoah/status/992933563556286464?s=19 …

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      Rabbert Mueller @latenitenoah
      6/Here are the distributions at age 21-24 for men and women. We see: 1. The norm (mode) is 1-2 partners for both genders. 2. The number of virgins is already small, and slightly higher for women than for men 3. The median # of partners is a bit higher for men. pic.twitter.com/AQHvklU0Vs
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    3. Noah Smith  🐇‏Verified account @Noahpinion Mar 14

      Note that this is in response to a Quillette article that claimed the "incel" worldview (a few men getting all the women) is correct, based on data that don't actually show that:https://quillette.com/2019/03/12/attraction-inequality-and-the-dating-economy/ …

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    4. Noah Smith  🐇‏Verified account @Noahpinion Mar 27

      Noah Smith  🐇 Retweeted Charles Fain Lehman

      And here's yet more evidence against the "incel" worldview:https://twitter.com/CharlesFLehman/status/1110895977408483329 …

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      Charles Fain LehmanVerified account @CharlesFLehman
      Marriage and equity in the distribution of sex: pic.twitter.com/UeeFBiBc90
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    5. Noah Smith  🐇‏Verified account @Noahpinion Mar 29

      Now, keep in mind, it IS possible that just in the last few years, there HAS been a trend toward sexlessness - and toward sexless young men in particular.https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/03/29/share-americans-not-having-sex-has-reached-record-high/?utm_term=.9d1be9b49df4 …

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      Noah Smith  🐇‏Verified account @Noahpinion Mar 29

      But unless you think Tinder and Bumble are causing increased celibacy among men *and* women, this still doesn't fit the "incel" worldview...pic.twitter.com/AKf1TvMiCO

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        2. Noah Smith  🐇‏Verified account @Noahpinion Mar 29

          In fact the data seems more consistent with a decline in libidos overall...pic.twitter.com/KnB8nxhF7A

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        3. Noah Smith  🐇‏Verified account @Noahpinion Mar 29

          And people looking for social or cultural explanations for the rise in sexlessness should realize that the apparent decline in libidos is happening around the world...https://www.sbs.com.au/news/the-feed/young-single-people-in-japan-aren-t-having-sex-and-the-reason-is-proving-fatal …

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        2. Burp‏ @DavidKoggan Mar 29
          Replying to @Noahpinion

          But doesn't this show young men driving the increase in sexlessness far more than women?

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        3. Noah Smith  🐇‏Verified account @Noahpinion Mar 29
          Replying to @DavidKoggan

          More so, yes, but if Tinder et al. had made it possible for all the women to date the same few "chads", and if this is what women really wanted to do as the incels claim, you'd see a drop in female sexlessness rather than a rise.

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        4. Ara Vartanian‏ @aravartanian 22h22 hours ago
          Replying to @Noahpinion @DavidKoggan

          I feel this is a high bar you're placing on that graph to be "consistent" with the incel worldview. There could be factors driving male and female sexlessness but I'd think the incels only require the larger spike among men to be consistent.

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        5. Ara Vartanian‏ @aravartanian 22h22 hours ago
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          I really don't see how it's at the core of their worldview that fewer women are sexless than before. Seems you've taken a graph which seems reasonably consistent with their worldview and imposed a very high standard on it to make it inconsistent.

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        1. Adam อดัม‏ @verycoolagro Mar 29
          Replying to @Noahpinion

          10% to 28% in 10 years seems like an interesting data point though?

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        1. spelling_errer‏ @equa1ity4a11 Mar 29
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          Toxic feminism and fear of rape charges.

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        1. dv$t‏ @dvst99bya 14h14 hours ago
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          why are only men shooting up that fast then

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        2. David Petersen‏ @typesfaster Mar 29
          Replying to @Noahpinion

          I bet widespread finasteride use has something to do with the male graph.

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        3. Daffan‏ @icDaffan 20h20 hours ago
          Replying to @typesfaster @Noahpinion

          Your ridiculous. The people who need that stuff weren't having sex in the first place. Secondly, it's still a very small amount, won't even be worth 0.0001% if real.

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        1. Golda Velez‏ @gvelez17 Mar 29
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          maybe they are just admitting it more.

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        1. alexander guiness‏ @snagsguiness Mar 29
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          all this does fit in with the assertions that @JonBirger1 made in dateonomics, the distribution is not even and there is more than ever a skew of a few young men having a lot of sex this being mostly well educated young men with good prospects ahead of them.

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        1. Vladyslav Kapchynskyi‏ @Kapchynskyi Mar 29
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          I find it difficult to understand how the data about 28% of virgin males vs 18% females should reinforce your argument.

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        1. Greg McBeth‏ @gregmcbeth Mar 29
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          Seems plausible though. Given the dynamics of the sexual marketplace I’d expect Tinder/etc to cause a steeper celibacy rise among men than women, but a rise in both nonetheless.

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        1. David Antonio‏ @DrawDaveDraw Mar 29
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          I blame the fact that young couples can’t afford to get a studio apt in any major city, so they’re trying to find time btwn their 9 part time jobs & either sharing a flat w/ 9 roommates that can all hear you, or at yr parent’s- Not everyone’s comfortable w/ public bathroom sex

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