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    Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 30

    Ending birthright citizenship would create a huge permanent underclass of non-citizens, making the U.S. a lot more dystopian. https://thefederalist.com/2018/10/30/trump-sends-birthright-citizenship-trial-balloon/ …pic.twitter.com/cK5C7RKmFz

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      2. FreisinnigeZeitung‏ @FreisinnigeZtg Oct 30
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        The "hardened ethnic conclaves we see in Europe" is what the Federalist sees. That's alt-right BS many in the US have bought into--on all sides. The ignorance shines through when they do not know what a "conclave" is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_conclave …

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      2. Ettaroo‏ @ettaroo Oct 30
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        this tactic scares me even more than closing the borders - it is way too close to the tactic used by Nazis in Austria and Poland to strip Jews of any legal and human rights. Once fascists make people "stateless" - strip them of their citizenship - the next step is to dehumanize.

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      3. Ettaroo‏ @ettaroo Oct 30
        Replying to @ettaroo @Noahpinion

        people keep making the mistake that Trump's policies are thought up by Trump, etc. He might be pushing and "selling" them, but anything immigration/citizenship is being fleshed about by devious miscreants like Miller, etc. who are borrowing from the worst episodes of history.

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      4. Fava Bean‏ @Fava Oct 30
        Replying to @ettaroo @Noahpinion

        Why can't Trump be a Nazi? He used to keep a book of Hitler speeches by his bed. He's showing us who he is. Believe him. #GOPNeoNazis

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      5. Ettaroo‏ @ettaroo Oct 30
        Replying to @Fava @Noahpinion

        he is most definitely a fascist. But, he's not the one figuring out the mechanics and operations - that's done by more methodical effers who have spent their lives thinking of the legal gray areas to inflict maximum pain on minority groups and political enemies.

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      6. Ettaroo‏ @ettaroo Oct 30
        Replying to @ettaroo @Fava @Noahpinion

        Trump = chaotic evil w/ low intelligence/wisdom Miller, etc. = lawful evil w/ high intelligence and really low charisma

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      1. spooky Mahan photo‏ @spooknine Oct 30
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        When even the Federalist doesn't want a piece...

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      1. refugee, resident, citizen, father of new roots‏ @luisespinal Oct 31
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        The warning at the end of the article is very powerful. The Republican Party is committing political seppuku in its quest to provide instant political gratification to whatever wretched cohorts it happens to be pandering at this moment.pic.twitter.com/kmzaBQHoL9

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      1. Nancy RHM‏ @NancyRHM Oct 30
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        That's the goal. The Republicans are trying to create a feudal oligarchy.

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      1. Sarah‏ @sosomanysarahs Oct 30
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        They should really look at the effect it's had in European countries before thinking it's so perfect. It's not as if it stops migration.

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      2. Occasional Buddha‏ @OhhhBuddha Oct 30
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        I really think this is out there to serve to principal goals: 1. Pleasure Trump's base. 2. Get liberals' heads to explode.

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      3. refugee, resident, citizen, father of new roots‏ @luisespinal Oct 31
        Replying to @OhhhBuddha @Noahpinion

        Even though #1 and #2 are true, it doesn't preclude that this is also an ultimate goal. For many, ending birthright citizen has been a hush-hush talk for years, if not decades, the stuff talked privately and in the closet. Now they get a POTUS to make their wet dreams come true.

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      4. Occasional Buddha‏ @OhhhBuddha Oct 31
        Replying to @luisespinal @Noahpinion

        Even Kelly Anne Conjob's husband is against it:https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trumps-proposal-to-end-birthright-citizenship-is-unconstitutional/2018/10/30/4615ab5c-dc85-11e8-b3f0-62607289efee_story.html?utm_term=.ffa483192f2c …

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      2. Matthew Martin‏ @hyperplanes Oct 31
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        someone should tell Ben that the word is enclave not conclave though.

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      3. Matthew Martin‏ @hyperplanes Oct 31
        Replying to @hyperplanes @Noahpinion

        This is like when I accidentally write sinicism instead of cynicism

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      2. Henry Kim‏ @h27kim Oct 30
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        Also, as a practical matter, it would be impossible to implement anyways, even if it is somehow ended. How far would it go back? Will descendants of 19th century immigrants be "decitizened?" (Then who wouldn't be affected?) It's irresponsible nonsense, a smokescreen. 1/

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      3. Henry Kim‏ @h27kim Oct 30
        Replying to @h27kim @Noahpinion

        In the short to medium term, it will simply offend many Hispanics (not a good move for GOP, since Democratic affinity of Hispanics is not a sure thing). But, at the same time, it'll just showcase how dysfunctional American politics became, arguing loudly over nonsense... 2/

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      4. Henry Kim‏ @h27kim Oct 30
        Replying to @h27kim @Noahpinion

        Instead of trying to cut deals over doing things that actually might be useful and productive. But GOP is so dysfunctional now that they can't agree on doing anything useful. That's the real pity. 3/

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      2. Rabid Liberal‏ @rabidliberal Oct 30
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        If I’m not a first generation citizen do I still have to pay taxes?

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      3. Fava Bean‏ @Fava Oct 30
        Replying to @rabidliberal @Noahpinion

        They will take more than your money. They always take everything from the stateless. I'd worry more for my life than my taxes if this goes through.

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      4. Rabid Liberal‏ @rabidliberal Oct 30
        Replying to @Fava @Noahpinion

        Yes I agree. Just wish the Dems we’re pushing back harder against this nonsense.

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