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Bloomberg Opinion writer. Elected "top neoliberal shill" of 2018. Occasionally posts anime gifs.

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    1. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 30

      That's why Trump needs a new bogeyman, for when there's no caravan in the news. There's one natural target: Hispanic Americans who are the children of people who immigrated illegally. Hence, the shift to birthright citizenship.

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    2. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 30

      Set aside legal changes for the moment. If Trump can delegitimize birthright citizenship rhetorically, he can paint Hispanic Americans - any of whom *might* have had undocumented parents, right? - as an occupying army on U.S. soil.

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    3. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 30

      If you talk to nativists, and point out that net illegal immigration ended a decade ago, they'll often say "that's the flow, but what about the stock?". The "stock", of course, means anyone who is - or might be? - a child of unauthorized immigrants.

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    4. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 30

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      Of course this could also extend to include Asian-Americans and the kids of recent African immigrants too - and someday it might. But the right has been cultivating the term "illegal" as an anti-Hispanic ethnic slur for a while now.https://twitter.com/Noahpinion/status/1053375495234961408 …

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      9/In fact, there were always much more legal than illegal immigration from Mexico, and kids of undocumented immigrants are U.S. citizens. The "illegal" label is not really about the law. It's about race. It's a way to say Latinos aren't legitimate Americans.
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    5. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 30

      So this is the long-term backup plan for if and when there's no more ISIS attacks, riots, or caravans to get people scared about. Hispanics as a permanent occupying army - illegitimate Americans, invaders living in the house nextdoor, etc. etc.

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    6. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 30

      The question is: Will it work?? There are reasons to think it will, and reasons to think it won't.

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    7. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 30

      Reasons to think it might work: 1. Latinos are still fairly highly clustered in the Southwest, meaning voters in the Midwest and Northeast haven't had time to get acclimated to them yet. 2. Republicans are very scared of the Latino vote.

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    8. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 30

      Reasons to think it won't work: 1. Hispanic-white intermarriage is very high: http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2017/05/18/1-trends-and-patterns-in-intermarriage/#the-largest-share-of-intermarried-couples-include-one-hispanic-and-one-white-spouse … As Tomas Jimenez documents, this means tons of white people have Hispanic people in their family now.https://www.amazon.com/Other-Side-Assimilation-Immigrants-Changing/dp/0520295706 …

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    9. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 30

      Other reasons to think it won't work: 2. Latinos have adopted English very rapidly, so don't seem as "foreign": https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2013/01/28/hispanic-immigrants-are-assimilating-just-as-quickly-as-earlier-groups/?noredirect=on … 3. Latinos have made good economic progress: https://www.amazon.com/Barrios-Burbs-Making-Mexican-American/dp/0804788669 …

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    10. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 30

      Painting Hispanic Americans in general as an occupying army calls on Americans to turn against their neighbors, their friends, their coworkers, their girlfriends and boyfriends, their wives and husbands and nieces and nephews. It's a nightmarish thing to ask.

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      Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 30

      So while I expect this to be Trump's strategy - and the strategy of the Stephen Millers and Steve Kings etc. who come after Trump and build on his movement - I kind of think this strategy will ultimately fail. But if it succeeds...God help us all. (end)

      9:36 AM - 30 Oct 2018
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        2. Derrell Durrett‏ @derrelldurrett Oct 30
          Replying to @Noahpinion

          @threadreaderapp unroll, please.

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        3. Thread Reader App‏ @threadreaderapp Oct 30
          Replying to @derrelldurrett

          Hi the unroll you asked for: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1057310229140926464.html … Have a good day. 🤖

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        1. ht‏ @usghxxx Oct 31
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          You missed China. He can always goes back to that mess.

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        1. Stephen Cobb‏Verified account @zcobb Oct 30
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          Indeed - the US already has labor shortages and skills gaps of "divine intervention required" proportions.

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