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Bloomberg Opinion writer. Elected "top neoliberal shill" of 2018. Occasionally posts anime gifs.

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    1. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 27

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      I think most people have both intellectual and deeper, visceral reasons for the policies they promote. When people ask me why I defend immigration...Yes, there are lots of good intellectual reasons, but also, *it's what I grew up with*.https://twitter.com/Noahpinion/status/1056206835810791425 …

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      3/As Tomas Jimenez writes in "The Other Side of Assimilation", for my generation, immigrants from India, China, Mexico, and many other countries aren't strange or foreign. On the contrary, they're a fixture. https://www.amazon.com/Other-Side-Assimilation-Immigrants-Changing/dp/0520295706 …
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      Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 27

      Anti-immigration people constantly struggle to figure out why I support immigration. Is it because I want more votes for the Democratic party? Is it a scheme to make America less white? Is it a neoliberal plot to reduce wages? They just don't understand.

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        2. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 27

          What they don't understand is that, like most people, I instinctively want to restore the America of my youth. And since I grew up under Reagan, Clinton, and Bush, my America was an America with immigrants. It was part of our communities, our culture, and our national story.

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        3. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 27

          Immigration was part of the fabric of daily life and community, but it was also a *nationalist* thing. We told ourselves that America, our country, was great because it was a nation of immigrants. That our nation took people from anywhere and uplifted them, gave them a shot.

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        4. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 27

          Immigrants were great people, of course. They were my friends' parents. They introduced me to interesting things. But on top of that, their presence symbolized the greatness of a nation that I felt I belonged to.

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        5. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 27

          Without immigration, we were - what? Just like all those other countries, which I imagined (not correctly, but not entirely incorrectly either) as closed-off societies that defined themselves by race, ancestry, and pedigree.

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        6. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 27

          In fact, I still believe something like this, though now I've seen with my own eyes the power of the xenophobic backlash that has also occasionally defined America throughout its history. I believe we have the power to stop that backlash if we want.

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        7. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 27

          The America of the 1990s and 2000s is gone now (and yes, parts of it needed to go). But I want the new America that emerges from our current time of troubles to retain the essential elements of the America I believed in when I was young. And immigration is one of those.

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        8. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 27

          This is not to say that there aren't also very good intellectual, pragmatic justifications for immigration. There are plenty. But for anyone who wondered about why I'm *emotionally* invested in the issue...well, there you go. (end)

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        2. EdAsante‏ @EdAsante77 Oct 27
          Replying to @Noahpinion @AlexNowrasteh

          It’s a dangerous viewpoint to hold. That will lead to a violent backlash if your vision is realized. America is not immune to the nature of humans.

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        3. mjk1093‏ @mjk1093 Oct 27
          Replying to @EdAsante77 @Noahpinion @AlexNowrasteh

          Whatever happened to "American exceptionalism"? Or the idea that America has a special mission in world history? Reagan's city on a hill? Are conservatives really ready to give all that up to cater to Trump?

          1 reply 1 retweet 7 likes
        4. EdAsante‏ @EdAsante77 Oct 27
          Replying to @mjk1093 @Noahpinion @AlexNowrasteh

          I’m just saying this as someone with roots in the most diverse continent on the planet. That this vision of non-stop, unfettered immigration will lead to disaster.

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        5. Brad ' 🐙 🌐' Hemak‏ @hemakhemak Oct 27
          Replying to @EdAsante77 @mjk1093 and

          This "non-stop, unfettered immigration" is exactly how we became the wealthiest, most powerful country in human civilization.

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        6. EdAsante‏ @EdAsante77 Oct 27
          Replying to @hemakhemak @mjk1093 and

          Debatable. Period if this country’s greatest expansion happened when immigration was practically nil.

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        7. (((The Alex Nowrasteh)))‏ @AlexNowrasteh Oct 27
          Replying to @EdAsante77 @hemakhemak and

          And it’s greatest Depression happened right after the border with Europe was closed.

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        8. Jack Murphy‏ @jackmurphylive Oct 27
          Replying to @AlexNowrasteh @EdAsante77 and

          Are you asserting the Great Depression was caused in part by immigration laws??

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        9. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 27
          Replying to @jackmurphylive @AlexNowrasteh and

          Could certainly have exacerbated it, yeah.

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        1. hbd chick‏ @hbdchick Oct 27
          Replying to @Noahpinion

          and, maybe, you don't understand them. because you *feel* the way you do and they *feel* the way they do.

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        2. Jim Kaldem‏ @jimkaldem Oct 27
          Replying to @Noahpinion

          There are very few people who are "Anti-Immigration" and you know that term is misleading. The real debate is against illegal immigration. It is fun to see the left (the more government side) want immigration to be random. I thought government needs to make these big decisions?

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        3. Brad ' 🐙 🌐' Hemak‏ @hemakhemak Oct 27
          Replying to @jimkaldem @Noahpinion

          You know that is disingenuous. There are plenty of people who are advocating for reductions or the elimination of both legal and illegeal immigration. If you are unaware of that, then I don't believe you are really paying attention.

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        4. Jim Kaldem‏ @jimkaldem Oct 28
          Replying to @hemakhemak @Noahpinion

          Big word... impressive! There are some, but most are not and that was my point. By the way, I don't have the time to waste being "disingenuous" with people I will never know. Why would I care to deceive you Brad? You are not worth that effort.

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        1. Bobby Riggs‏ @BobbyRi82412408 Oct 27
          Replying to @Noahpinion

          My question is: You want unlimited immigration but also an insanely generous welfare state...and don’t see any conflict

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