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Bloomberg Opinion writer. Elected "top neoliberal shill" of 2018. Occasionally posts anime gifs.

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    Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 27

    Noah Smith Retweeted Daniel Scheer

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    Daniel Scheer @dcscheer
    The problem, in my view is that “socialism” is an overloaded term. We end up with the right arguing that agricultural collectivism is bad and the left responding that the welfare state is good. Seems like we’re talking about different things. https://twitter.com/Noahpinion/status/1056162447638360069 …
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      1. Skuke Lywalker 💫‏ @fancypantsUSA Oct 27
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        Yep. Socialist stuff is what we want. Not full blown textbook socialism.

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      1. gaelofdarkness‏ @gaelofdarkness Oct 27
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        Tbf a lot of us leftists use much more specific terms when talking amongst ourselves, if we don't just ignore labels in favor of stating our policy positions. I've tried to talk about this in the past but am always confronted with "socialism is still socialism" talking points.

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      1. Ho Chi Minh‏ @GoodOldBacHo Oct 27
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        Motte and Bailey.https://heterodoxacademy.org/the-motte-and-the-bailey-a-rhetorical-strategy-to-know/ …

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      1. Avy Faingezicht‏ @avyfain Oct 27
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        Precise words matter.https://twitter.com/avyfain/status/1045700616293560321 …

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        Avy Faingezicht @avyfain
        Refusal to debate with suitcase words in In The First Circle. pic.twitter.com/xW3t1ObFJf
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      2. Merijn Knibbe‏ @MerijnKnibbe Oct 27
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        Let me try my hand. Socialists understand that capital is not just a factor of production but, as it is owned, also a factor of distribution. Think: somebody inheriting a lot of stocks. But also: slaves used to be 'capital', too.

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      3. Merijn Knibbe‏ @MerijnKnibbe Oct 27
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        2) Now, ownership can be by individuals (or families). It can also by by the state. or collectivities, like societies or churches. Liberals have a strong tendency to argue that individual ownership of capital is best.

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      4. Merijn Knibbe‏ @MerijnKnibbe Oct 27
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        3) Socialists doubt if individual ownership is always best. Should we really have Texan style ownership of subsoil assets by individuals? Or Alaskan (or european: code Napoleon) ownership by the state? Should land underlying houses always be private property?

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      5. Merijn Knibbe‏ @MerijnKnibbe Oct 27
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        4) Also, should ownership rights be very extensive (as with the elements of TTIP which extended the rights of capital owners vis a vis states)? Or should ownership rights be somewhat tempered and should communities or the state have rights to appropriate part of capital income?

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      6. Merijn Knibbe‏ @MerijnKnibbe Oct 27
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        5) Socialists tend to restrict private ownership in some cases. Think also of patents and the like! Or ownership of scientific articles of over one hundred year old... Some socialists would like more rights for communities (Kropotkin, underrated). Some facor a democratic state.

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      7. Merijn Knibbe‏ @MerijnKnibbe Oct 27
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        6) And some wanted total ownership by a state controled by the one and only political party. Bad. Anyway - it does help to think in terms of ownership. Protestant revolution disowned the catholic church, the lands were transfered to governments and charities.

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      8. Merijn Knibbe‏ @MerijnKnibbe Oct 27
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        7) USA civil war disowned slave holders. More examples abound. At this moment, ownership of information is of course a hot topic. Should information be socialized? Or individualized? End.

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      1. Laura, BRD‏ @LiglyCnsrvatari Oct 27
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        The welfare state isn't socialism, it's social democracy. Real socialism, as espoused by the DSA, is unequivocally bad.

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      1. ☭ Winnie Pooh Thought ☭‏ @Zdlax Oct 27
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        Growing up constantly hearing "get a job!", capitalism above all else connotes the valorizing of work for work's sake for the poor and wealth born of passive income for the rich.

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      1. Glenn Alexander‏ @mtn_glenn Oct 27
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        Liberals in favor of a welfare state ought to be more vocally and explicitly pro-capitalist, rather than cowering in the face of growing "anti-capitalist" sentiment on the far Left which, I think for most, is just a way of declaring tribal loyalties.

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      1. rehn-meidner supermodel‏ @peterjgowan Oct 27
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        some of us are responding that sweden 1975 is good which is another case the CEA gave

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