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Bloomberg Opinion writer. Elected "top neoliberal shill" of 2018. Occasionally posts anime gifs.

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    Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 25

    1/Between this wave of mail bombings and the 2017 Congressional baseball shooting, I'm starting to worry that the U.S. is entering a new era of politically motivated assassinations.https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/24/nyregion/clinton-obama-explosive-device.html …

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      2. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 25

        2/The assassinations of John F. Kennedy, Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, and Robert Kennedy in the 60s undoubtedly destabilized American politics and society.

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      3. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 25

        3/In the 1920s and 1930s, a wave of assassinations of major political figures destabilized Japan and eventually led to the military taking over the country. http://www.ndl.go.jp/modern/e/cha3/description10.html … https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osachi_Hamaguchi … https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_by_assassination …

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      4. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 25

        4/Fringe groups like the Proud Boys are openly paying homage to Japanese assassins, showing that I'm not the only one who sees a parallel:http://bedfordandbowery.com/2018/10/inside-the-proud-boy-event-that-sparked-violence-outside-of-uptown-gop-club/ …

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      5. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 25

        5/Assassinations, of course, are in addition to politically flavored mass shooting incidents. Since 2015 we've had: Dylann Roof: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charleston_church_shooting … Omar Mateen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orlando_nightclub_shooting … Micah Johnson: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_shooting_of_Dallas_police_officers … Farook and Malik: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_San_Bernardino_attack …

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      6. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 25

        6/The Portland Train Attack of 2017: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Portland_train_attack …

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      7. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 25

        7/Lane Maurice Davis:https://www.thedailybeast.com/youtube-trumpkin-and-former-milo-intern-kills-his-own-dad-for-calling-him-a-nazi …

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      8. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 25

        8/William Atchison:http://www.santafenewmexican.com/news/local_news/aztec-school-shooter-had-swastika-marking-on-his-leg/article_bc357e74-805f-505f-ada0-be4d808a71e0.html …

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      9. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 25

        9/This guy:https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/her-son-facing-murder-charges-is-being-called-an-alt-right-killer-this-mother-blames-herself/2018/03/26/6e4326c4-02a9-11e8-bb03-722769454f82_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.39e7b91f8346 …

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      10. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 25

        10/Of course, it's hard to tell how many of these incidents are actually politically motivated, and how many are just nutjobs who use politics as an excuse to kill people. If you're going to shoot up a nightclub and kill yourself, why not say it's for ISIS? Etc.

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      11. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 25

        11/But on the other hand, there's the possibility that nationwide political hysteria and unrest actually stirs up the passions of nutjobs, making them more likely to kill. Mass shooting deaths are up!https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/no-matter-how-you-measure-them-mass-shooting-deaths-are-up/ …

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      12. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 25

        12/Does a national mood of stress and fear and bad feelings and apocalyptic rhetoric contribute to stuff like the Las Vegas shooting that injured nearly a thousand people? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Las_Vegas_shooting …

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      13. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 25

        13/I feel like this is how Cold Civil Wars are fought. Extremists rile everyone up, hoping that a lone nutjob will take the hint and go wreak some havoc. Lone wolf proxy wars.

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      14. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 25

        14/Each act of political or possibly-political violence stirs the other side to greater hysteria. That hysteria percolates into the minds of unstable individuals watching through their computer screens. Eventually enough hysteria prompts them to grab a gun or bomb and attack.

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      15. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 25

        15/Thus, the cycle of assassination/terrorism and hysteria continues until...what? How do Cold Civil Wars end? (end)

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      2. Ronan‏ @ronanfitz22 Oct 25
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        I wouldnt worry tbh. The US is more broadly a much safer country, and general violence effects organised political violence. Policing, particularly counterterror, is much more effective. Norms are stronger against pol violence. Lead poisoning has declined. Itll be ok.

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      3. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 25
        Replying to @ronanfitz22

        What's the threshold for "OK"?

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      4. Ronan‏ @ronanfitz22 Oct 25
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        Not comparable to the two eras you mentioned (20s and 60s) I would see a possible increase in violence but unlikely youll get mass political violence from domestic extremists(theyre not competent enough, even the IRA was operationally shut down by the 90s in the UK, and they 1/

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      5. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 25
        Replying to @ronanfitz22

        Were the late 60s and 70s "OK"? The country didn't fall apart.

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      6. Ronan‏ @ronanfitz22 Oct 25
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        The 60s ad 70s were far more violent than now. They were okay relevant to more violent counterfactuals.

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      7. Derek‏ @PereGrimmer Oct 25
        Replying to @ronanfitz22 @Noahpinion

        Lead poisoning, alcohol, and institutional racism turn out not to be a great mix.

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      8. Ronan‏ @ronanfitz22 Oct 25
        Replying to @PereGrimmer @Noahpinion

        Indeed. (And the boomers coming of age, another thing we dont have is a large cohort of young men coming through)

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      9. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 25
        Replying to @ronanfitz22 @PereGrimmer

        Millennials are a Baby Boom echo...

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