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Bloomberg Opinion writer. Elected "top neoliberal shill" of 2018. Occasionally posts anime gifs.

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    Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 24

    Noah Smith Retweeted Jason McDaniel

    This is super interesting and important. This is super interesting and important. This is super interesting and important.https://twitter.com/ValisJason/status/1054792226033688576 …

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    Jason McDaniel @ValisJason
    In my latest article on Ranked-Choice Voting I find no evidence that RCV leads to reduced levels of racially polarized voting in mayoral elections. This may have implications for those who hope that RCV may help reduce partisan polarization. https://escholarship.org/uc/item/2gm5854x#main …
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      2. wumboist‏ @wumboist Oct 24
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        RCV is a meme. I don't know why people push for it when score voting exists.

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      1. IntoTheUnknown‏ @IntoTheUnknow14 Oct 24
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        So... on to Approval Voting, then?...

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      1. eigenscape 🌊‏ @eigenscape Oct 24
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        Why is this important? Ranked voting isn't about reducing partisanship, it's about letting people vote for who they want the most without wasting votes.

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      2. Lei Gong‏ @gonglei89 Oct 24
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        This is less a question of the results and more a question of interpretation, but is RCV increasing racial polarization or simply unmasking racial polarization that gets covered over by single choice voting?

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      3. Benjamin Shapero‏ @realBenShapero Oct 24
        Replying to @gonglei89 @Noahpinion

        At least in Santa Clara, rcv was pitched explicitly not as preventing racial polarization, but that it would increase Asian representation by assuming it would increase racial polarization.

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      1. K, not K‏ @kphextwin Oct 24
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        but... aren't local races categorically different from the kind of mind-bending ultra-tribal national races? like way more ticket splitting, lack of party loyalty, etc? if so, perhaps RCV may serve a fundamentally different role at a larger scale

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      2. Dylan Devenyi‏ @DylanDevenyi Oct 24
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        I would say two main things - adjusting to New equilibria w/r/t electoral system changes takes time, would love to see data a generation from now And I and many other electoral reform advocates would additionally emphasize that RCV is ideally a stepping stone to bigger reform

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      3. Dylan Devenyi‏ @DylanDevenyi Oct 24
        Replying to @DylanDevenyi @Noahpinion

        (also, personally I see "reduce polarization" as at most a secondary goal of electoral reform though obviously others will disagree)

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      1. John Ballard‏ @Hootsbudy Oct 24
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        I totally agree but huge numbers of people believe voter fraud is a problem so this is waaaay past their comprehension. If results are not what they expect they would consider the system to be fraudulent.

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      1. @landley‏ @landley Oct 24
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        It takes a while to change a culture, and small systems in a larger context get swamped by cultural effects. Gotta start somewhere.

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      1. Joe Smith  🇨🇦‏ @joesmith323 Oct 24
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        Erstwhile reformers always assume that politicians and voters will not game a new set of voting rules but everyone adjusts behavior to any change in the rules to seek their own best advantage.

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      2.  🇺🇸Tweety Boosevelt 🇺🇸‏ @trustbustinboi Oct 24
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        Single Transferable vote? Does that have any statistics? I need to know because Multi member districts in the house with STV is my political dream

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      3. Andrea Taylor‏ @taylorandr Oct 24
        Replying to @trustbustinboi @Noahpinion

        How is STV different than RCV?

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      1. Jason McDaniel‏ @ValisJason Oct 24
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        I could quibble with “super” 😜

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