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Bloomberg Opinion writer. Elected "top neoliberal shill" of 2018. Occasionally posts anime gifs.

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    Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 22

    Noah Smith Retweeted Bloomberg

    I propose a two-type Affirmative Action system for college admissions. It would give extra consideration to two groups: 1. Black Americans and Native Americans 2. Americans from poor backgroundshttps://twitter.com/business/status/1054374025374433280 …

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    BloombergVerified account @business
    Race-based college admissions is a mess and could be destroyed by its foes. @Noahpinion proposes a way to save it https://bloom.bg/2EzMi4E  via @bopinion
    7:56 AM - 22 Oct 2018
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      2. Benjamin Adams‏ @BenAdamsO_O Oct 22
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        Is there more? Latinos are ineligible? What about mixed race? What percentage black is "black?" What about Africans? Who gets hurt by the preferences -- Caucasians or Asians (like Harvard)?

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      3. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 22
        Replying to @BenAdamsO_O

        Read the post!!

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Benjamin Adams‏ @BenAdamsO_O Oct 22
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        lol. There is a post!

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      5. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 22
        Replying to @BenAdamsO_O

        There is a post. 😊

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. Benjamin Adams‏ @BenAdamsO_O Oct 22
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        Very good piece on a difficult topic. I think the historical lens is critical when evaluating affirmative action so I can understand limiting racial prefs to African & Native Americans. But how do we systematically & fairly determine whether someone is Black/Native?

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      7. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 22
        Replying to @BenAdamsO_O

        Much like we now do. It's not perfect.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      8. Benjamin Adams‏ @BenAdamsO_O Oct 22
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        fair enough. and the two tracks would be completely distinct? IOW, kids of Robert Smith, Michael Jordan, Barack Obama will all receive prefs?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      9. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 22
        Replying to @BenAdamsO_O

        The tracks would be cumulative. And yes, they absolutely would.

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      10. End of conversation
      1. New conversation
      2. Benn Steil‏ @BennSteil Oct 22
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        Should Black and Native Americans be eligible, under your scheme, if their families are wealthy and they had an elite secondary education?

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      3. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 22
        Replying to @BennSteil

        Yes

        4 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
      4. Pradheep J. Shanker, M.D., M.S.‏ @Neoavatara Oct 22
        Replying to @Noahpinion @BennSteil

        How is this two track system fundamentally different from what we have now? It might strengthen support for the Poor, I guess, but otherwise is status quo. No?

        4 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
      5. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 22
        Replying to @Neoavatara @BennSteil

        Read the post!!

        0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      6. End of conversation
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      2. Dan Johnson‏ @DAJchicago Oct 22
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        So, for example, Mexicans would be able to get the AA benefits to the extent they're ethnically Aztec or Mayan? But white Spanish Mexicans wouldn't get it? Is that basically what you have in mind?

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      3. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 22
        Replying to @DAJchicago

        No

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      4. Dan Johnson‏ @DAJchicago Oct 22
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        Ok, so you mean "Native American" means derived from a tribe that was historically within the current territorial boundaries of the United States?

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 22
        Replying to @DAJchicago

        Yes!!

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      1. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 22
        Replying to @KishavanBhola

        No. We need (1) for justice.

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