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Bloomberg Opinion writer. Elected "top neoliberal shill" of 2018. Occasionally posts anime gifs.

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    Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 21

    Noah Smith Retweeted WIRED

    Didn't turn out well in Black Mirror, won't turn out well in real life.https://twitter.com/WIRED/status/1053664151439097856 …

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    In China, the concept of “social credit” has hit the mainstream—where your purchases, activities, and even your mistakes get tallied into a score that quantifies your reputation. What would your social score be? https://wired.trib.al/L8LONqB 
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      1. Tim O'Reilly‏Verified account @timoreilly Oct 21
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        It's worth reading Virginia Eubanks' Automating Inequality, which makes the case that we've built one of these here in the US too, for the poor, and it isn't working out well here either.https://www.amazon.com/Automating-Inequality-High-Tech-Profile-Police/dp/1250074312/ …

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      1. Run the Joules‏ @Twonius Oct 21
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        Probably going to be a lot of grade inflation. I already think very hard before I rate any driver less than 5 stars

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      2. Lei Gong‏ @gonglei89 Oct 21
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        We’re getting the story wrong. https://www.chinalawtranslate.com/seeing-chinese-social-credit-through-a-glass-darkly/?lang=en …

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      1. Chris (Robotbeat) 🗽 🖖🏾‏ @Robotbeat Oct 22
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        Also an episode of The Orville.

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      1. David Esber‏ @davidesber88 Oct 22
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        Does it really differ much from current western systems? credit ratings, criminal record, school score, driving demerit points etc?

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      1. Jeff VW‏ @j_victorwhiskey Oct 21
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        And for a second there I thought China was looking to mid-20th-century Canadian religious conservatives for inspiration

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      1. 𝕂𝕙𝕒𝕝𝕚𝕝 ℍ 𝔹lack Frida𝕪‏ @kabulykos Oct 21
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        Just when you thought "great TV makes horrible policy" was exclusively an American problem right now

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      1. Jesse Hoff‏ @hoffsbeefs Oct 21
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        We already have it

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      2. orange cheetolini‏ @imacdowell Oct 21
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        Isn’t this the same as a credit score in the US?

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      3. James Salsman  📎‏ @jsalsman Oct 21
        Replying to @imacdowell @Noahpinion

        No, it encompasses political speech, observed behavior, police records, employment details, and commercial purchases, not just borrowing and repayment events.

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      4. orange cheetolini‏ @imacdowell Oct 22
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        You are the man! Thanks!

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      1. Brad‏ @BradCorContrera Oct 21
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        Different culture. Americans fetishize privacy and individualism. Our population also has a lot more room to spread out.

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      1. tickle T OcasioBro‏ @trevordeke Oct 21
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        Worked ok for the Leni Lenape, I believe.

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      1. Mhal2005‏ @Mhal2005 Oct 21
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        I just asked my Chinese guest/foreign student if she heard of the social score. She doesn't have a clue what's going on. 😂 Probably thinks I a promoting American propaganda.

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      1.  🇺🇸 John McGrath  🌊‏ @Wordie Oct 21
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        Hey @CoryDoctorow have you seen this? Whuffie has landed.

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      2. John Eckstein‏ @jfeckstein Oct 21
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        Depends on your definition of “turns out well”. I think it will help entrench the current regime.

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      3. James Salsman  📎‏ @jsalsman Oct 21
        Replying to @jfeckstein @Noahpinion

        I think it will backfire spectacularly after a few years, and is already being abused by joe-job extortionists

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      1. kar nels‏ @kar_nels Oct 21
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        That black mirror episode seemed over the top but China said to that TV show "hold my beer".

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      1. Henry Kim‏ @h27kim Oct 21
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        Thorstein Veblen's idea of conspicuous consumption, on super steroids.

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