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Bloomberg Opinion writer. Elected "top neoliberal shill" of 2018. Occasionally posts anime gifs.

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    1. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 20

      Next up in my "immigration and diversity" reading list: "The Other Side of Assimilation: How Immigrants Are Changing American Life", by Tomas Jimenez.https://www.amazon.com/Other-Side-Assimilation-Immigrants-Changing/dp/0520295706 …

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    2. pete brown‏ @drpetebrowncdu Oct 20
      Replying to @Noahpinion

      I assume you read @reihan's book?

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    3. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 20
      Replying to @drpetebrowncdu

      Noah Smith Retweeted Noah Smith

      I did, and reviewed it for Foreign Affairs!https://twitter.com/Noahpinion/status/1050446153953599488 …

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      Noah SmithVerified account @Noahpinion
      1/I reviewed @reihan Salam's "Melting Pot or Civil War?" for Foreign Affairs: https://www.foreignaffairs.com/reviews/review-essay/2018-10-11/should-america-cut-low-skilled-immigration?gpp=LIdllm9bW3aj3/NdALeqADp1VU0zOS9kaldqMjViQ0xmWUMvRy9Ob2tiaElqMjFJR0Vwcm5rbUtCTEttTVFIT3BUaHpDT3dnUnBOSnlGaGxIOmY1N2FhMTFlNGVhNDE4Njk1YzFjYWIxY2MwMjM1YzA1ZTk1NTc3OWExOWI4N2VlMzhkZTk5YWM1NWU5NGFhNDQ%3D …
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    4. pete brown‏ @drpetebrowncdu Oct 20
      Replying to @Noahpinion

      is the review gated?

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      Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 20
      Replying to @drpetebrowncdu

      It is. But you can read my thread, where I paraphrase.

      11:38 AM - 20 Oct 2018
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        2. pete brown‏ @drpetebrowncdu Oct 20
          Replying to @Noahpinion

          but it's hard to make that argument without triggering SJW left...which is why he doesn't do it. The fundamental issue is the SJW left seems to see any change in the current regime toward a higher skills mix or any attempts at enforcement as racist...and that is the impasse. 3/3

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        3. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 20
          Replying to @drpetebrowncdu

          I think the power of the "SJW left" is vastly inflated by the heightened threat sensitivity of conservatives. Yes, people will call you racist if you say we need to limit low-skilled immigration. But whatever. If you think it's the right policy, ignore that.

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        4. pete brown‏ @drpetebrowncdu Oct 20
          Replying to @Noahpinion

          yes we are the snowflakes now. LOL

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        6. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 20

          You don't agree with the theory that political conservatism is related to the personality trait of heightened threat sensitivity?

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        7. pete brown‏ @drpetebrowncdu Oct 20
          Replying to @Noahpinion

          maybe....that and the full spectrum morality that Jonathan Haidt talks about.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        8. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 20
          Replying to @drpetebrowncdu

          Haidt was the first to tell me about the "threat sensitivity" theory, interestingly...in a taxicab in Tokyo.

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        9. pete brown‏ @drpetebrowncdu Oct 20
          Replying to @Noahpinion

          Someday I'll ask you about places to eat in Japan. On our travel list for the next 2-3 years.

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        10. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 20
          Replying to @drpetebrowncdu

          http://noahpinionblog.blogspot.com/2018/06/noah-smiths-japan-travel-guide.html …

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        2. pete brown‏ @drpetebrowncdu Oct 20
          Replying to @Noahpinion

          of the unskilled variety...from Africa, from Asia and yes, Central and South America. Thus the call for keeping immigration levels the same but increasing the skills mix probably means a reduction in total numbers over time 2/2

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        3. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 20
          Replying to @drpetebrowncdu

          Yes, given the collapse in Latin American low-skilled immigration, the idea of restricting low-skilled immigration is much more about the future than the present.

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        4. pete brown‏ @drpetebrowncdu Oct 20
          Replying to @Noahpinion

          And your supposition that rising GDP in Latin and South America tends to reduce the desire to immigrate seems like it may be wrong. Maybe instead it just increases the expectations for a better life and the wherewithal to achieve it by coming to the US or somewhere else.

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        5. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 20
          Replying to @drpetebrowncdu

          Rising GDP increases immigration pressure until about $8000 or so in PPP terms, then decreases it pretty rapidly after that. Mexico is at almost $18,000 now, Guatemala and El Salvador are just hitting it now (i.e. they're at their peak).

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        6. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 20
          Replying to @Noahpinion @drpetebrowncdu

          And most of South America is above that level already.

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        7. pete brown‏ @drpetebrowncdu Oct 20
          Replying to @Noahpinion

          But do you think, say, millions of Venezuelans would immigrate here if we permitted it? Maybe that's a temporary contingency of a failing state but there does seem to be a much higher risk of failing states in the southern hemisphere.

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        8. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 20
          Replying to @drpetebrowncdu

          Maybe Venezuelans, given the collapse of their economy. BUT, check it out - they're *not* coming here like the Guatemalans are. Why not? Well, for one thing, Venezuela is farther away - a lot more borders to cross.

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        9. pete brown‏ @drpetebrowncdu Oct 20
          Replying to @Noahpinion

          There's probably quite a few who could afford a single one way plane trip to Miami....but again I doubt we make it easy for them to get visas because if we did there would be a great deal of induced demand. 1/2

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        1. pete brown‏ @drpetebrowncdu Oct 20
          Replying to @Noahpinion

          I doubt Reihan would disagree with anything you say in the review. He's deliberately crafted a book to avoid inflaming anti-racists so he avoids making the arguments you recommended to him. I suspect he sees a future with much more immigration pressure 1/2

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