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Bloomberg Opinion writer. Elected "top neoliberal shill" of 2018. Occasionally posts anime gifs.

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    1. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 20

      1/Lately I've been reading a ton of books about immigration and diversity. The most recent one is "Americanism in the Twenty-First Century", by @debbiejsr. https://www.amazon.com/Americanism-Twenty-First-Century-Opinion-Immigration/dp/0521145244 … What did I learn?

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    2. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 20

      2/This book is not very "pop". It's a dry political science book that's basically a concatenation of several research papers, all based on one big survey that was done in 2004.https://www.icpsr.umich.edu/icpsrweb/RCMD/studies/27601 …

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    3. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 20

      3/The survey, the 21-CAS, asks people about how they define their own identity - race, national origin, and/or "American". It also asks them about what they think being an "American" entails.

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    4. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 20

      4/Basically, the survey asks people about 5 types of "Americanism": 1. Feeling like an American 2. Believing traditional American values like freedom 3. Civic participation (voting, etc.) 4. Multiculturalism vs. blending in 5. Being white and/or Christian

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    5. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 20

      5/I edited out a few others (e.g. being born in America, being a citizen, speaking English). Anyway. The upshot is that except for being white/Christian, most of these definitions of "American" get broad endorsement from all groups of people surveyed.

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    6. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 20

      6/Only 17.4% of survey respondents said having European ancestors was important for being an American. 34.9% said being a Christian was important. In comparison, 96.9% said respecting other people's cultural differences was important for being an American.

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    7. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 20

      7/In addition, pluralities of all the big racial (or "pan-ethnic") groups - whites, blacks, Latinos, and Asians - identified as "Americans" first and foremost. whites - 89.4% blacks - 52.3% Latinos - 53.6% Asians - 47.3%

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      Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 20

      8/For black people, racial identification was also common (41%). For Latinos and Asians, national-origin identification (e.g. "Mexican", "Chinese", etc.) was common (28.2% for Latinos, 36% for Asians). Many of the people choosing national-origin identity were foreign-born.

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        2. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 20

          9/Some more numbers for what people thought it means to be an American: Letting other people do what they want - 87.8% Carrying on the cultural traditions of one's ancestors - 72.7% Blending into the larger society - 73.4% Pursuing economic success through hard work - 90.7%

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        3. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 20

          10/Some of these bear repeating. The % of people who said "carrying on the cultural traditions of one's ancestors" is crucial for being an American was FOUR TIMES as large as the % who said "having European ancestors" was important!

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        4. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 20

          11/Also, almost everyone surveyed (94.1%) agreed that being able to speak English was important for being an American. And 93.7% said having American citizenship was important. That should quiet the fears of the Huntingtonian nativists...

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        5. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 20

          12/What's more, the conception of what it means to be an American basically didn't vary across races. This means that at least in 2004, most Americans thought of themselves as "Americans", and most agreed about what that meant.

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        6. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 20

          13/After establishing these basic facts, the book correlated different conceptions of Americanism, and different self-identities, with various policy preferences and with perceptions of discrimination. This approach has at least two big methodological problems...

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        7. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 20

          14/The first problem is that since such large majorities of people agree on what it means to be an American, there isn't much variation in the data. The second problem, of course, is telling correlation from causation. This is just a survey.

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        8. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 20

          15/But a few interesting facts really jump out. For both Latinos and Asians, national-origin identity disappears across the generations, and American identity increases.pic.twitter.com/dKukI7jgoE

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        9. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 20

          16/Note, though, that for Latinos, racial ("pan-ethnic") identity also declines, while for Asians it does not.pic.twitter.com/Z1arx2jJTe

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        10. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 20

          17/Next, for both Latinos and Asians, the more people experience individual-level racial discrimination, the more they tend to identify with their racial and/or national-origin group rather than with America.pic.twitter.com/fYMZsX0e3e

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        11. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 20

          18/Now, there's an obvious correlation/causation problem here, namely that people who identify more strongly with their racial group might also be the type of people more likely to feel they're being discriminated against...

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        12. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 20

          19/BUT, interestingly, there's not much correlation between Latinos' and Asians' identity and their perceptions that their racial GROUP is discriminated against in America. It's only INDIVIDUAL-level discrimination that correlates with feeling less American.

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        13. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 20

          20/This suggests that individual racial discrimination is the biggest danger for national unity in the face of large-scale immigration. In other words, we need less of this crap:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhZEPmchxCU …

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        14. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 20

          21/We need absolutely ZERO of this crap:http://fortune.com/2017/03/22/when-americans-tell-americans-go-back-to-your-country/ …

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        15. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 20

          22/Not even a little bit of this crap!!!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mOqoklLyM0 …

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        16. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 20

          23/The data in "Americanism in the Twenty-First Century" strongly implies that if it weren't for asshole racists giving nonwhite Americans a hard time, we would have national unity.

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        17. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 20

          24/Even WITH racists running around being assholes, most Americans of all races feel American, and we still all have broad agreement on what it means to be an American (at least, as of 2004). But, we can do better.

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        18. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 20

          25/If you see a racist giving someone a hard time or yelling "Get out of my country" or some such bullshit, shut them down immediately. For the sake of common human decency, but also for the sake of the country. (end)

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