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Bloomberg Opinion writer. Elected "top neoliberal shill" of 2018. Occasionally posts anime gifs.

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    Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 18

    Noah Smith Retweeted David Neumark

    Pundit spouts bad analysis that's politically appealing to Trump base: 100s of retweets. Economist brutally dunks on pundit using a term relatively few people would know: a couple retweets. This is why Twitter is bad.https://twitter.com/NeumarkDN/status/1052980796682883072 …

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    David Neumark @NeumarkDN
    I assume you have heard of "counterfactuals"? https://twitter.com/carney/status/1052914766073741312 …
    10:58 AM - 18 Oct 2018
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    21 replies 20 retweets 129 likes
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      2. David Neumark‏ @NeumarkDN Oct 18
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        I should point out that I've also "dunked" on people on the left, like @NickHanauer, for equally bad attempts to argue that the #minimumwage doesn't reduce employment.

        4 replies 1 retweet 7 likes
      3. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 18
        Replying to @NeumarkDN @NickHanauer

        I think Nick has done a great job of publicizing the fact that minimum wage isn't nearly as harmful as many people think! :-)

        0 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
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      2. klhoughton‏ @klhoughton Oct 18
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        If that is your idea of a brutal dunking, we now assume you are only allowed to play with a Nerf basketball.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 18
        Replying to @klhoughton

        It's only brutal to nerds who know what it means ;-)

        0 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
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      1. Clayton Bellamy‏ @claybell1973 Oct 18
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        Maybe economist needs to speak everyday English on Twitter

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      1. Toad‏ @OneMoreDrank Oct 18
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        The reason I follow @Noahpinion is for exposure to new words and concepts and because my kid is taking economics at Uni. This is why Twitter is good.

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      1. almost always‏ @ms_scherholz Oct 18
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        Maybe economists should learn to speak using words people understand.

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      2. Mr. Cain Thaler‏ @Mr_Cain_Thaler Oct 18
        Replying to @Noahpinion @ModeledBehavior

        I couldn't make it past the irony of an economist complaining about counterfactuals.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Johñ Caroliñ‏ @JohnCarolin Oct 18
        Replying to @Mr_Cain_Thaler @Noahpinion @ModeledBehavior

        Estimating counterfactuals is basically all Econometrics is.

        0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
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      2. AJ‏ @Wavinator Oct 18
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        Valid point, but I'd put this down to human cognitive hardware over Twitter software. We've been failing prey to this for ages. Remember the politician who charged his opponent with being a "homo sapiens?"pic.twitter.com/j50oIv9tXV

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      3. Alfredo Samprón‏ @AlfredSampron Oct 18
        Replying to @Wavinator @Noahpinion

        Exactly. One of the messages has a clear, triumphant tone. The other is a rhetorical question phrases in econ language. In a debate, the cheering would be distributed the same way.

        0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
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      1. Pallavi Guniganti‏ @PGunigantiAT Oct 18
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        Also the problem that even if you know what 'counterfactuals' are as a concept, you don't know what is meant by it in this context. The whole 'brutal dunking' thru brevity can backlash if people don't follow what you mean.

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      1. Neil Seftor‏ @nseftor Oct 18
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        s/Twitter/discourse in the U.S./

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      1. Presidential Harassment‏ @sspencer_smb Oct 18
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        "counterfactual" is far to obscure of a term. we should promote its use as often as possible!

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      1. Mathew Crawford‏ @EduEngineer Oct 19
        Replying to @Noahpinion @ModeledBehavior

        Maybe it's why many other things are bad, including our education system that leaves people less than curious about terms they don't understand. Also, responsibility is on the economist to know the audience.

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      1. jello jake‏ @jake_ruiter Oct 18
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        Do you even need to talk about counterfactuals here? It’s still early days on the tarrifs. Could they even possibly be affecting unemployment numbers yet?

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      2. Matt Diamond‏ @mattdiamond Oct 18
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        What if one of the dunk RTs is a quote tweet that expands on the dunk and that quote tweet gets 100s of RTs? Maybe that’s unlikely, but it’s hard to understand the impact of a tweet from the basic stats they provide us with. I agree that stupid spreads faster than smart, though.

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      3. Matt Diamond‏ @mattdiamond Oct 18
        Replying to @mattdiamond @Noahpinion

        Twitter has improved their UI but it’s far from reaching its potential. There seems to be no easy way to see all of the quote tweets of a given tweet. Also, here’s an idea: when a user is writing a reply, provide a toggle to also tweet the reply as a quote tweet.

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      4. Matt Diamond‏ @mattdiamond Oct 18
        Replying to @mattdiamond @Noahpinion

        I love my current job and don’t really want to leave it, but sometimes I wish I was a product manager at @TwitterNYC

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