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Bloomberg Opinion writer. Elected "top neoliberal shill" of 2018. Occasionally posts anime gifs.

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    1. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 16

      Oh you have got to be f***ing kidding me.pic.twitter.com/1RtpOrbd3o

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      Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 16

      For those who are wondering: A) The ice that will raise sea levels when it melts is ON TOP OF LAND. Not floating! B) Floating ice does not reduce sea levels when it melts, because of Archimedes' principle. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archimedes%27_principle … Try melting an ice cube in a glass of water!

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        2. Henry Kim‏ @h27kim Oct 16
          Replying to @Noahpinion

          I thought the hexagon thing (even if a bit off) was a genuine legit science question that should not be ridiculed. The answer, as Noah says, is that it's the Antaractic and to a lesser degree, Greenland ice, not the floating ice, that will be the problem, of course.

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        3. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 16
          Replying to @h27kim

          Plus he doesn't even understand Archimedes' Principle. Total fail.

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        4. Henry Kim‏ @h27kim Oct 16
          Replying to @Noahpinion

          True. But a lot of people don't know that, and I've found that, even when ppl might be commenting in bad faith, it helps to explain earnestly (as if in resp to legit questions--which they might be, even if some ppl might just be more boorish) than to ridicule.

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        5. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 16
          Replying to @h27kim

          Let's use a two-pronged approach. You explain earnestly, I'll ridicule (and then explain earnestly). Together we can't fail!

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        2. Alex Supertramp‏ @alex984123 Oct 16
          Replying to @Noahpinion

          Where did the hexagon thing come from? (and how could it possibly matter?)

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        3. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 16
          Replying to @alex984123

          I think he means that ice has greater volume than water because it's a crystal lattice instead of a fluid. That is correct but irrelevant.

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        4. Alex Supertramp‏ @alex984123 Oct 16
          Replying to @Noahpinion

          Oh right. I thought that he thought the macro structure of ice was a hexagon.

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        1. Dandy Roddick‏ @Dandy_Roddick Oct 16
          Replying to @Noahpinion

          Melting sea ice does slightly raise sea level, because the resulting fresh water is slightly less dense than sea water.

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        1. Stephen Baines‏ @sbbaines Oct 16
          Replying to @Noahpinion

          You deny the power of the hexagon??!!

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        1. E. Paul Matthews‏ @OrdoSeclorum Oct 16
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          I think the biggest cause of sea level rise is the thermal expansion of water.

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        1. Catherine Castner‏ @CathCastner Oct 16
          Replying to @Noahpinion

          Omg. Thank you!

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        1. Ryan‏ @IAmUrOpiate28 Oct 16
          Replying to @Noahpinion

          All you have to realize is that ice floats and isn’t completely submerged, so some of its mass is above water it maintains an equilibrium with the water it’s in, unless forcibly submerged.

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        1. KØBA  🌐‏ @Koba_Gold Oct 16
          Replying to @Noahpinion

          KØBA  🌐 Retweeted KØBA  🌐

          I'm one of those re-tweets:https://twitter.com/Koba_Gold/status/1051978866095316992?s=19 …

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          KØBA  🌐 @Koba_Gold
          I often wonder how people can forget that ice also forms on land. https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1051958103078526982 …
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        1. ⫷Cody Reisdorf⫸ Merkwürdigliebe &⅋ ⨳‏ @nescientswot Oct 16
          Replying to @Noahpinion

          Also very significant is that liquid water is densest at ~4°C, so the oceans themselves expand as they warm. Even if there weren't any ice at all, sea level would rise due to thermal expansion.

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        1. Heather Beach‏ @DocHeatherB Oct 16
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          https://youtu.be/3dm2lBzm2AE 

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        1. Julian Luttrell‏ @jujutu Oct 16
          Replying to @Noahpinion

          Well said that man. But your first tweet is delightfully focussed.

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        1. Michael‏ @profplum99 Oct 16
          Replying to @Noahpinion

          Oh yeah? Well if it’s on land then how’s it going to get in the oceans, Mr. Smarty Pants?!?!

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        2. Annia Ciezadlo‏ @annia Oct 16
          Replying to @Noahpinion

          I think I can help here: Due to a magical process called physics, warmer water expands and takes up more space. This is called "thermal expansion." Ice melting, whether on land or in the sea, takes up more space. Some background: https://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/tar/wg1/411.htm … http://cosee.umaine.edu/cfuser/resources/tr_sea_level.pdf …

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        3. Annia Ciezadlo‏ @annia Oct 16
          Replying to @annia @Noahpinion

          We're already seeing the results. It's not just happening in 12 years, or by 2050, or 2100. It's happening NOW. Here, we looked at seven places around the globe where climate-related sea level rise &/or extreme rainfall have led to catastrophic flooding: https://orbmedia.org/stories/under-water/ …

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