There's two problems with the "China is the largest emmiter of CO2" thing, one is that China literally has 20% more people than the US and the EU combined and it's per capita emissions are less than half of the those of the US even before you consider that 20% of those emissions
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Replying to @Itmechr3 @marthsshinedair and
Sadly, the climate doesn't care about per capita emissions. Qatar has over twice the per capita emissions of the U.S., yet no one thinks that Qatar can even put a dent in climate change on its own. Only total matters, unfortunately.
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Replying to @Noahpinion @marthsshinedair and
Look if, for example, a single person was emitting 40% of the world's CO2 this argument becomes completely absurd. It matters who emits the most greenhouse gases because bringing their levels of emissions in line with the rest of the world is the fastest way to reduce emissions
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Replying to @Itmechr3 @Noahpinion and
And it matters morally because the poorest people in the world shouldn't have to cut their emissions so that richer countries can keep emitting at a higher rate. You can't solve this problem without systematically holding groups accountable for their rate of emissions
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Replying to @Itmechr3 @marthsshinedair and
All this talk of morality is just illusion-of-control.
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Replying to @Noahpinion @marthsshinedair and
This is just a way for you to shield yourself from the fact that you emit more C02 than basically anyone else on earth
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Replying to @Itmechr3 @marthsshinedair and
Qatar emits more than twice as much, it's on them to solve climate change /sarcasm
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Replying to @Noahpinion @marthsshinedair and
It's really cute how you keep deflecting to Qatar instead of dealing with how absurdly high American emissions are by either standard
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Replying to @Itmechr3 @marthsshinedair and
Your bad argument about per capita emissions, if carried through to its logical conclusion, would conclude that Qatar is the biggest problem, which is patently dumb. But once you admit total emissions are the problem, you realize China is the biggest problem, game over.
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Replying to @Noahpinion @marthsshinedair and
The amazing thing about Neoliberism is how capital has free movement and everything is interconnected until someone has to deal with externalities at which point a geologic scale crisis driven by the industrialization of the West has to be solved by China alone
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Not China alone. But China is absolutely indispensable. If we reduce emissions and they do not, we die. Simple as that.
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