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Bloomberg Opinion writer. Elected "top neoliberal shill" of 2018. Occasionally posts anime gifs.

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    Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 15

    Noah Smith Retweeted Hollywood Reporter

    A case study in the failure of social shaming to make horrible people stop being horrible.https://twitter.com/THR/status/1051955400617205760 …

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    Hollywood ReporterVerified account @THR
    .@FoxNews host @TuckerCarlson says he can't eat at restaurants anymore because people yell at him: "Having someone scream, 'F–– you!' at a restaurant, it just wrecks your meal" http://thr.cm/p6RXWB 
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      1. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 15

        Note: I am not denying that shaming Tucker Carlson is *intrinsically* good.

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      2. Sam Hicks‏ @samfhicks Oct 15
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        I find this behavior abhorrent. You're really nullifying the other sides' viewpoints. Whatever you think of Tucker Carlson, and I've disliked the guy for 15 years, he represents a lot of people in America. We need some dialogue, not just shut people down.

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      3. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 15
        Replying to @samfhicks

        But he has a popular TV talk show and a Twitter account with 2.24 million followers. He hasn't been shut down.

        2 replies 0 retweets 16 likes
      4. Sam Hicks‏ @samfhicks Oct 15
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        I get that. Of course, he hasn't *literally* been shut down. I've been at this for 20 years and I think that we're going about creating a governing majority the wrong way. Running political commentators and politicians you disagree with out of restaurants is a new phenomenon.

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      5. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 15
        Replying to @samfhicks

        What have you been at for 20 years?

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      6. Sam Hicks‏ @samfhicks Oct 15
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        Political activism on behalf of the Democratic Party.

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      7. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 15
        Replying to @samfhicks

        What political activism do you do?

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      8. Sam Hicks‏ @samfhicks Oct 15
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        Nothing too terribly important. I'm certainly not important. Just grassroots stuff.

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      9. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 15
        Replying to @samfhicks

        Like what, for example?

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      2. Sam Hicks‏ @samfhicks Oct 15
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        Try sometime: watch Fox for an hour. Then switch on MSNBC for an hour. It's like you're listening to announcers call the Astros/Red Sox game while watching the Dodgers/Brewers game. They aren't even on the same planet as far as their narratives are concerned.

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 15
        Replying to @samfhicks

        So you're saying we should have the government restrict the number of cable channels, in order to force the MSNBC and Fox anchors to talk to each other?

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      4. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 15
        Replying to @Noahpinion @samfhicks

        Didn't you ever watch Crossfire?

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      5. Sam Hicks‏ @samfhicks Oct 15
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        I most certainly did watch Crossfire. I'm not saying that the government should intervene to somehow lessen the difference between the two narratives. I'm trying to be terse about something for which I have an opinion that would take some time to spell out.

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      2. Gregory Hays‏ @aristofontes Oct 15
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        I think we need to pay attention to Apocryphal Zhou Enlai on this one. If Screaming 'F— you!' at Tucker Carlson in restaurants hasn't produced results by 2250 or so, we can revisit the question.

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      3. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 15
        Replying to @aristofontes

        Agreed.

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      2. Kierkegaarden Cop‏ @joshsteich Oct 15
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        Small sample size

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      3. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 15
        Replying to @joshsteich

        fair

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      2. gaelofdarkness‏ @gaelofdarkness Oct 15
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        While I'm not one to do or defend this sort of thing, I think you misunderstand the motivation. I don't think these people are doing this to change Carlson's behavior, but rather to make it clear that his behavior is unacceptable and shouldn't be/have been normalized. They are

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      3. gaelofdarkness‏ @gaelofdarkness Oct 15
        Replying to @gaelofdarkness @Noahpinion

        more likely targeting those companies who advertise on Carlson's show than to actually be targeting Carlson.

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