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Bloomberg Opinion writer. Elected "top neoliberal shill" of 2018. Occasionally posts anime gifs.

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    Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 15

    Noah Smith Retweeted Bloomberg Economics

    OK, yes, I admit, there is ONE way that dismantling capitalism might halt climate change. But you're not gonna like it.https://twitter.com/economics/status/1051940120688058368 …

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    Bloomberg EconomicsVerified account @economics
    Socialist Venezuela's economic collapse is creating a nation of desperate capitalists https://bloom.bg/2CLoadA 
    2:09 PM - 15 Oct 2018
    • 16 Retweets
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    6 replies 16 retweets 95 likes
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      2. Barry Westbrook‏ @SeattleScion Oct 15
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        Venezuela: the example used to denigrate socialism by capitalists who understand nothing of it or the history of the country they’re discussing

        3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 15
        Replying to @SeattleScion

        Yes, let's dismantle capitalism and save the planet with Norway-style socialism instead!pic.twitter.com/peT2BXbvSS

        5 replies 1 retweet 5 likes
      4. Barry Westbrook‏ @SeattleScion Oct 15
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        Oh so we’re talking about Norway nowhttps://www.economist.com/special-report/2013/02/02/the-rich-cousin …

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      5. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 15
        Replying to @SeattleScion

        Norway is great. But living like Norway ain't gonna save the climate unless we decarbonize a lot more than Norway has, my friend.

        2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
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      7. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 15
        Replying to @SeattleScion

        Do you really think those failures are orthogonal to Chavez' brand of socialism? Spending tons of money = Chavez' strategy to help the poor (which was inevitably riddled with cronyism). As for not diversifying...it's hard to do without private business.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      8. Barry Westbrook‏ @SeattleScion Oct 15
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        The money spent wasn’t exclusively spent on the poor or programs for them. Their economy originally flourished but it was based on oil revenues and when that tanked the economy did too. So Venezuela was as dependent on capitalistic markets as we are.

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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      2. Neoliberal  🦃‏ @ne0liberal Oct 15
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        If we kill all of humanity we'll stop climate change too

        5 replies 0 retweets 22 likes
      3. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 15
        Replying to @ne0liberal

        Why stop at humanity?pic.twitter.com/hsCOs6vpoA

        2 replies 0 retweets 10 likes
      4. Aaron Ng  🐉‏ @aaronykng Oct 15
        Replying to @Noahpinion @ne0liberal

        there’s no climate change if there’s no climate

        0 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
      5. End of conversation
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      2. Richard Chauvin Jr.‏ @RLChauv Oct 15
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        Your falling into the anthropomorphic climate change trap. Don’t do it!

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 15
        Replying to @RLChauv

        Don't worry, I won't treat climate change like a person

        0 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
      4. End of conversation
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      2. Enver Hoxha42069‏ @RealEnverHoxha Oct 15
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        I do like how you refuse to even discuss the example of cuba in relation to climate change, especially considering its the only country in the world to meet the WFF's sustainable develop standard. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/257559970_An_approach_to_sustainable_development_The_case_of_Cuba/download …

        2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
      3. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 15
        Replying to @RealEnverHoxha

        That's interesting! Will check it out. I do know that Cuba is horribly polluted...(confirmed by friends who visited there and couldn't stand the pollution)

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Enver Hoxha42069‏ @RealEnverHoxha Oct 15
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        It's carbon emissions and agricultural land footprint are very small for its HDI. The authors here point out that Cuba's central planning and government policy are a significant factor contributing to why Cuba has been able to do this, in particular their program to make its

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Enver Hoxha42069‏ @RealEnverHoxha Oct 15
        Replying to @RealEnverHoxha @Noahpinion

        electrical system vastly more efficient. The reason for Cuba's high HDI, as well, are the result of that planning and policy.pic.twitter.com/5yltde9ewM

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. Dylan Devenyi‏ @DylanDevenyi Oct 15
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        Here's my devils advocate take - if capital were socially controlled, it would be way easier to deploy it in a way that accounted for environmental externalities, whereas in our current system the private gain/social cost divergence causes problems

        2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      3. Dylan Devenyi‏ @DylanDevenyi Oct 15
        Replying to @DylanDevenyi @Noahpinion

        You can probably handle that problem more simply by just instituting a large carbon tax and dividend, but hey

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      4. End of conversation
      1. Gower Ramesh‏ @Ramrulez Oct 15
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        might address climate change, but not sure whether it will dismantle capitalism :) owning something and creating something are common among regular humans (save the ascetics) (maybe that is also a social construct)

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