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Bloomberg Opinion writer. Elected "top neoliberal shill" of 2018. Occasionally posts anime gifs.

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    1. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 14

      1/Here is a thread about climate change that's going to make a lot of people mad. Basically, America, on its own, has a LOT power to stop climate change than almost anyone admits.https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-10-14/china-is-the-climate-change-battleground …

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    2. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 14

      2/China now emits far more CO2 than the U.S. It emits almost as much as Europe and the U.S. combined.pic.twitter.com/oRqWN4o8OS

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    3. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 14

      3/In fact, even this huge disparity dramatically understates the degree to which China is in the driver's seat of climate change. China, being still much poorer than us, has much more room to grow its economy. Hence, the emissions gap will only grow larger.pic.twitter.com/01PggZMTcY

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    4. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 14

      4/This leads to an uncomfortable but unavoidable fact: The battle to halt climate change will be won or lost in China. America's power - and thus, the power of American politicians, activists, businesses, etc. - to save the planet from climate catastrophe is very marginal.

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    5. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 14

      5/This is just a fact. But it's an uncomfortable one for a people like Americans who are used to thinking that the world lives or dies at their command. Thus, I see many Americans desperately trying to preserve the illusion of control with respect to climate change.

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    6. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 14

      6/The first way we Americans try to preserve the illusion of control is by bringing up moral arguments. We note that we emitted more carbon than China throughout history, and that our per capita emissions are higher. But of course the climate cares nothing for morality.

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    7. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 14

      7/Another way we Americans try to preserve the illusion of control is by claiming that China is doing their part, China is reducing emissions, China has the problem under control, so we just need to focus on ourselves. This is, sadly, bullshit.https://unearthed.greenpeace.org/2018/05/30/china-co2-carbon-climate-emissions-rise-in-2018/ …

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    8. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 14

      8/A third way we Americans try to preserve the illusion of control is by claiming that America exports its emissions to China (by offshoring carbon-intensive industries). But in fact, this accounts for only a small piece of the rise in China's CO2 emissions.pic.twitter.com/4eeXBZh959

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    9. Diego Morales‏ @DiegoAlways_ Oct 14
      Replying to @Noahpinion

      This literally offers no evidence for your argument. Manufacturing had effectively transferred from western countries to the east at the millenium. Exports drive those economies. Their emissions are a product of our quest for cheaper labor.

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      Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 14
      Replying to @DiegoAlways_

      If you think this isn't evidence for my argument, then you just don't understand the chart at all, and there's nothing I can do for you.

      9:34 PM - 14 Oct 2018
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        1. Diego Morales‏ @DiegoAlways_ Oct 14
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          China's rising curve coincides perfectly with our increasing imports of their goods. Capitalism is dependent on global trade, primarily us. If we abolished capitalism their goods would cease to have buyers and emissions would be cut. https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html …

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