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Bloomberg Opinion writer. Elected "top neoliberal shill" of 2018. Occasionally posts anime gifs.

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    1. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 14

      6/The first way we Americans try to preserve the illusion of control is by bringing up moral arguments. We note that we emitted more carbon than China throughout history, and that our per capita emissions are higher. But of course the climate cares nothing for morality.

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    2. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 14

      7/Another way we Americans try to preserve the illusion of control is by claiming that China is doing their part, China is reducing emissions, China has the problem under control, so we just need to focus on ourselves. This is, sadly, bullshit.https://unearthed.greenpeace.org/2018/05/30/china-co2-carbon-climate-emissions-rise-in-2018/ …

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    3. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 14

      8/A third way we Americans try to preserve the illusion of control is by claiming that America exports its emissions to China (by offshoring carbon-intensive industries). But in fact, this accounts for only a small piece of the rise in China's CO2 emissions.pic.twitter.com/4eeXBZh959

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    4. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 14

      9/Of course, I screwed this whole thread up with a typo in the first tweet, which should have read "a LOT less power" instead of "a LOT power", but let's go on.

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    5. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 14

      10/Another way we Americans try to preserve the illusion of control is by claiming that China will follow our lead on emissions - that if we cut emissions unilaterally, they'd follow suit. Of course, we've ALREADY cut emissions. Nobody followed our lead.

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    6. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 14

      11/Nor did China start slashing emissions after Kyoto, or after Paris. The idea that we Americans rule the world via our moral leadership is just another illusion of control.

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    7. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 14

      Noah Smith Retweeted Bloomberg Opinion

      12/Yet another way we try to preserve the illusion of control is by making the false claim that "degrowth" in rich countries will solve the problem. In fact, China already contributes far more to global growth than we do.https://twitter.com/bopinion/status/1051242765173043200 …

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      China’s contribution to global growth will soon be double that of the U.S., and India’s will be larger than that of the entire euro zone https://bloom.bg/2yCNZbd  pic.twitter.com/2iptZJgSNm
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    8. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 14

      13/And finally, the biggest and most important way we Americans try to preserve the illusion of control is by simple denialism. Many Americans pretend that climate science is more uncertain than it really is, or that climate scientists are dishonest, etc.https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/28/opinion/climate-of-complete-certainty.html …

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    9. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 14

      14/It's all just an illusion. America is NOT in the driver's seat when it comes to climate change, and it's time for us to acknowledge that horrible, gut-wrenching fact. Because it is a fact.

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    10. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 14

      15/Does this mean America should abandon our efforts to fight climate change? Of course not!!! We should be taxing carbon, building green infrastructure, researching green energy technology, etc.!

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      Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 14

      16/BUT, on our own, this won't be nearly enough. We need to do all we can to encourage China to decarbonize. This includes sharing all of our green energy tech with China, and even trying to pay them to decarbonize.pic.twitter.com/nVkquYUTAF

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        2. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 14

          17/It probably also includes other, less friendly and positive incentives.pic.twitter.com/rVbNtSW9a3

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        3. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 14

          18/But the horrible truth is, even all of these incentives probably have only a marginal ability to sway China's decisions. Like it or not, the future of our planet is in the hands of some folks in Beijing. (end)

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        2. You Should Have Voted Gary‏ @colorblindk1d Oct 15
          Replying to @Noahpinion @Jon_StewartMill

          NUCLEAR ENERGY. It is the only scalable, reliable source of CO2-free electricity. Where do people think solar panels and wind turbines come from? Dirty mines and toxic factories. Even switching to CO2-free electricity will only solve 1/3 of the problem, still.

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        3. You Should Have Voted Gary‏ @colorblindk1d Oct 15
          Replying to @colorblindk1d @Noahpinion @Jon_StewartMill

          We would then have to switch vehicles to electricity, requiring even MORE electricty. Nuclear is essential to this. But there really is nothing we can do. It is too late. Look at the numbers. Any chance we had died with the death of the nuclear power industry 30 years ago.

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        1. Urban Accelerator‏ @UrbanAcceleratr Oct 14
          Replying to @Noahpinion

          Paying them is not a good idea - look what happened with Clean Development Mechanism money, they took it and ran

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        1. Joaquin Machado R.‏ @JoacoMachado Oct 14
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          I don't think they are amenable to such encouragement. The folks in Beijing are unapologetic about their expansion project. They mean to come out ahead and they don't have a naysaying fifth column encysted in their intelligentsia. US has to get back on top by leading innovation.

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        1. John Lounsbury‏ @jlounsbury59 Oct 14
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          For what I see China has already taken the lead in developing and implementing renewable energy technology, especially since US policy is now in retreat in that regard.

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        1. Gabriel‏ @Gabriel050111 Oct 14
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          The US is probably not in the best position to pull this kind of thing off. If you d have some interesting green tech, might be worth it to start using them first.pic.twitter.com/Vl5HXswkF3

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        1. Colin‏ @ColinOnClimate Oct 14
          Replying to @Noahpinion

          I see you're reasoning, need to digest 😌 Another note on this point - our rapid transition to clean energy in the US should inherently bolster manufacturing and labor capacity in the East, where most PV is already manufactured.

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        1. KeeCee‏ @K_ee_S_ee Oct 15
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          You had some kind of story Noah........ I am loosing you now

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        2. Deadbydawn‏ @deadbydawn75 Oct 14
          Replying to @Noahpinion

          We should at first place provide them with nuclear plants. It's the most effective way to combine growth and decarbonization.

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        3. You Should Have Voted Gary‏ @colorblindk1d Oct 15
          Replying to @deadbydawn75 @Noahpinion

          Stupid anti-science Luddite environmentalists helped kill off our nuclear industry, so China is actually technologically ahead of us with nuclear energy production.

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        4. Deadbydawn‏ @deadbydawn75 Oct 15
          Replying to @colorblindk1d @Noahpinion

          Dunno where you from, but I have the feeling that the oil Corp and reaganism are perfect suspects too. And I meant even to help and subsidise China in order to speed up the rate of building. However, this would be refused bc of their nationalism.

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        1. Motown Boy‏ @motown5203 Oct 14
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          China’s margins have been under pressure from wage inflation and now tariffs. What incentive would they have to decarbonize and further narrow their margins?

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