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Bloomberg Opinion writer. Elected "top neoliberal shill" of 2018. Occasionally posts anime gifs.

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    1. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 14

      5/This is just a fact. But it's an uncomfortable one for a people like Americans who are used to thinking that the world lives or dies at their command. Thus, I see many Americans desperately trying to preserve the illusion of control with respect to climate change.

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    2. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 14

      6/The first way we Americans try to preserve the illusion of control is by bringing up moral arguments. We note that we emitted more carbon than China throughout history, and that our per capita emissions are higher. But of course the climate cares nothing for morality.

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    3. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 14

      7/Another way we Americans try to preserve the illusion of control is by claiming that China is doing their part, China is reducing emissions, China has the problem under control, so we just need to focus on ourselves. This is, sadly, bullshit.https://unearthed.greenpeace.org/2018/05/30/china-co2-carbon-climate-emissions-rise-in-2018/ …

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    4. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 14

      8/A third way we Americans try to preserve the illusion of control is by claiming that America exports its emissions to China (by offshoring carbon-intensive industries). But in fact, this accounts for only a small piece of the rise in China's CO2 emissions.pic.twitter.com/4eeXBZh959

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    5. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 14

      9/Of course, I screwed this whole thread up with a typo in the first tweet, which should have read "a LOT less power" instead of "a LOT power", but let's go on.

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    6. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 14

      10/Another way we Americans try to preserve the illusion of control is by claiming that China will follow our lead on emissions - that if we cut emissions unilaterally, they'd follow suit. Of course, we've ALREADY cut emissions. Nobody followed our lead.

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    7. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 14

      11/Nor did China start slashing emissions after Kyoto, or after Paris. The idea that we Americans rule the world via our moral leadership is just another illusion of control.

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    8. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 14

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      12/Yet another way we try to preserve the illusion of control is by making the false claim that "degrowth" in rich countries will solve the problem. In fact, China already contributes far more to global growth than we do.https://twitter.com/bopinion/status/1051242765173043200 …

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      China’s contribution to global growth will soon be double that of the U.S., and India’s will be larger than that of the entire euro zone https://bloom.bg/2yCNZbd  pic.twitter.com/2iptZJgSNm
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    9. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 14

      13/And finally, the biggest and most important way we Americans try to preserve the illusion of control is by simple denialism. Many Americans pretend that climate science is more uncertain than it really is, or that climate scientists are dishonest, etc.https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/28/opinion/climate-of-complete-certainty.html …

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    10. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 14

      14/It's all just an illusion. America is NOT in the driver's seat when it comes to climate change, and it's time for us to acknowledge that horrible, gut-wrenching fact. Because it is a fact.

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      Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 14

      15/Does this mean America should abandon our efforts to fight climate change? Of course not!!! We should be taxing carbon, building green infrastructure, researching green energy technology, etc.!

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        2. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 14

          16/BUT, on our own, this won't be nearly enough. We need to do all we can to encourage China to decarbonize. This includes sharing all of our green energy tech with China, and even trying to pay them to decarbonize.pic.twitter.com/nVkquYUTAF

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        3. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 14

          17/It probably also includes other, less friendly and positive incentives.pic.twitter.com/rVbNtSW9a3

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        4. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 14

          18/But the horrible truth is, even all of these incentives probably have only a marginal ability to sway China's decisions. Like it or not, the future of our planet is in the hands of some folks in Beijing. (end)

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        1. Patrick Traughber‏ @ptraughber Oct 14
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          how much would the price of gasoline need to be to cover its externalities? And at what price would consumer behavior change enough to meet our climate goals?

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        1. Marshall Littleton‏ @10thlegion Oct 15
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          Since when was CO2 pollution? Since the Left said so ?

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        1. AJR‏ @AdamJRodgers Oct 15
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          In other words, we can't do much to stop climate change, but we should do our best to make Al Gore and other "green" industries billions. No thanks.

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        1. Chinaboy*‏ @rwingjr Oct 15
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          A carbon tax in combination with carbon credits is a joke. Eliminate the carbon credits or the ability to purchase them, and that would help.

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        1. edward, the  ☠.‏ @NotANumber123 Oct 14
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          my gas and electricity is taxed, we are building green infrastructure, and we're researching green energy. when will you admit that we're doing all those things already?

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        1. Liberal Arts and Crafts‏ @LibArtsNdCrafts Oct 14
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          This has to include nuclear. Look at what France did, compare it to Germany's efforts over a similar time frame, 30 years later, look at the results, look at current energy prices in each nation. Nuclear, funded by government, at scale, works.

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        1. Ctrl-Alt-Stupid‏ @dtb_Omelette Oct 14
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          Agreed. 1) If emissions reduction is successful in the west, then that's still a big chunk of global emissions; and 2) If China wants to reduce its emissions (and it surely will) then it would be good for everyone if effective methods could be imitated or bought from the West.

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