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Bloomberg Opinion writer. Elected "top neoliberal shill" of 2018. Occasionally posts anime gifs.

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    1. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 12

      Noah Smith Retweeted Bloomberg Opinion

      China isn't quite as mean as the Soviet Union, but it's four times bigger (relative to us), and a hell of a lot more economically competent.https://twitter.com/bopinion/status/1050915857445113857 …

      Noah Smith added,

      Bloomberg OpinionVerified account @bopinion
      "The Chinese geopolitical dream is not revolution or conquest; it is simply a much weaker America," writes @tylercowen https://bloom.bg/2PzSb2R 
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    2. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 12

      So, yeah, maybe China wants to kick our butts only 40% as much as the USSR wanted to, but they're like 700% more able to kick our butts.

      16 replies 15 retweets 103 likes
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    3. Adam David Long‏ @adamdavidlong Oct 12
      Replying to @Noahpinion

      1/ 1/ Wait, are you saying that, if you compare (1) US military vs USSR military in 1958 vs (2) US military vs China military in 2018, that Chinese military is 8 times the threat that USSR military was? If so then what possible evidence could you have for that claim?

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    4. Adam David Long‏ @adamdavidlong Oct 12
      Replying to @adamdavidlong @Noahpinion

      2/ Current US Military is vastly superior to Chinese military. Situation vs USSR was a much closer thing. Also, when you say that they are 4 times bigger, it appears that you are referring to their population. Really, you think that is a decisive factor?

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    5. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 12
      Replying to @adamdavidlong

      Yeah population is a hugely important factor. Hitler's army was better but the Soviets crushed him. The Confederacy had all the experienced officers but the Union ground them down. It's not always decisive but it often tells in the end.

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    6. Adam David Long‏ @adamdavidlong Oct 12
      Replying to @Noahpinion

      1/ None of that is right. (1) Hitler was fighting a two front war (2) not at all clear German army was better See Richad Overy, Why the Allies won (3) Union superiority was industrial superiority, not sheer weight of numbers (4) Japan took over much of China despite much smaller

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 12
      Replying to @adamdavidlong

      1) USSR took much higher casualties than Germany but still won because they could afford them. 2) Industrial superiority matters, and China manufacturers more than we do (and the gap increases daily). 3) China fought us to a standstill in Korea at a much lower tech level.

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    8. Adam David Long‏ @adamdavidlong Oct 12
      Replying to @Noahpinion

      1/ this is already absurd. China manufactures more buttons than we do. you think that when it comes to military hardware China has greater manufacturing capacity than the US? That is nonsensical. Where is your evidence for that claim? China fought us to a standstill? More

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      Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 12
      Replying to @adamdavidlong

      Buttons?! China produces TEN TIMES the steel we do, hoss. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_steel_production …

      9:34 PM - 12 Oct 2018
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        2. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 12
          Replying to @Noahpinion @adamdavidlong

          China's industrial output is considerably greater than ours.https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/10-countries-with-the-highest-industrial-outputs-in-the-world.html …

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        3. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 12
          Replying to @Noahpinion @adamdavidlong

          And if you don't know that China fought us to a standstill in the Korean War, you haven't even read the Wikipedia article for "Korean War"! This discussion is over.

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        2. Adam David Long‏ @adamdavidlong Oct 12
          Replying to @Noahpinion

          1/ You think that raw material production will be the key to success in 21st century military conflict "hoss"? Do you think the potential conflict will turn on how many "liberty ships" we can turn out.https://thediplomat.com/2018/08/how-real-is-the-chinese-threat-to-the-united-states/ …

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        3. Adam David Long‏ @adamdavidlong Oct 12
          Replying to @adamdavidlong @Noahpinion

          2/ Have you read the Department of Defenses assessment of China's military? https://dod.defense.gov/Portals/1/Documents/pubs/2017_China_Military_Power_Report.PDF … Funny, they don't spend a lot of time on steel production.

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