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Bloomberg Opinion writer. Elected "top neoliberal shill" of 2018. Occasionally posts anime gifs.

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    1. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 12

      4/Teddy Roosevelt gets the most coverage, and is obviously the focus of the author's scholarship. A fascinating man, both brilliant and crazy, full of contradictions and inconsistencies. His importance seems underrated in most popular accounts of American history.

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    2. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 12

      5/Teddy Roosevelt had the idea of forging a new American race, which he thought would be a superior race. It would include white people of all types (including Jews), as well as Native Americans. But not black people.

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    3. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 12

      6/T.R. didn't believe in gradual "melting pot" assimilation - he believed that war would be the force that would unify the new American race in the fire of battle. He assembled the Rough Riders as a test of this idea.

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    4. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 12

      7/In the middle of battle in Cuba, the Rough Riders found themselves mixed with a black unit. T.R., happy for the help, started writing nice things about black people. But a couple of years later he was back to excluding them from his would-be master race.

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    5. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 12

      8/Gerstle sees this incident as a metaphor, presaging the real crucial moment when America actually implemented T.R.'s idea: WW2. Gerstle sees WW2 as the moment when the modern American white race was forged - through battle, just as T.R. wanted.

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    6. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 12

      9/Gerstle's account of WW2 taught me things I never knew about the racial history of the U.S. military during that was. At the beginning of the war, the military carried out strict segregation, like in WW1. There were fights between white and black American units!

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    7. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 12

      10/BUT, as the war went on, the military began to experiment with racial integration of blacks and whites, including on some Navy ships. The experiments all went well. Black and white troops, when integrated, got along great.

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    8. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 12

      11/But it was too late. The black-white integration was too slow. It was still only minor by the time WW2 ended. A couple of years later, the entire military was desegregated. But by then, Gerstle says, it was too late. The chance was lost.

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    9. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 12

      12/Gerstle obviously thinks, though he does not explicitly say, that Teddy Roosevelt's plan to forge a truly American race might have worked, if America had fully integrated the military during WW2. I am skeptical of this idea, but it's really interesting.

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    10. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 12

      13/More broadly, Gerstle's book shows that Americans have always used a mix of civic nationalism and racial nationalism to define their national identity, and that neither of these traditions has ever been able to vanquish the other.

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      Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 12

      14/The big question, going forward, is: Will America continue to define American-ness partly in racial terms? And if so, who will be included, and who, if anyone, will be excluded? This is an incredibly crucial question for our nation, but no one knows the answer. (end)

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        2. Henry Kim‏ @h27kim Oct 12
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          We need a cause which everyone can believe in, and to form a viable inst around it through which all ppls can interact around. The former will be hard. 1/

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        3. Henry Kim‏ @h27kim Oct 12
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          WW2 was nice bc our enemies were cartoonishly evil mostly (and could be easily propagandaized to look as evil even when they were not). Hard to find a better cause (see WW1). 2/

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        1. gluonspring‏ @gluonspring Oct 12
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          It's not just the effects from the war itself, it's the imagery made during and after the war: news, TV, movies. Growing up in the 60s WWII dominated our national self image and defined "real America". AAS were completely invisible in that story during my childhood and YA yrs.

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        1. Jorg Lueke‏ @Real_Jorg Oct 12
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          I hope so. The good news is people can get along across racial boundaries and we've become more inclusive over time. Lets build something great together and not end up like Renaissance Florence.

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        1. Wbond‏ @MrWBond Oct 12
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          Thanks. Interesting.

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        2. Daniel Farina‏ @danfarina Oct 12
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          Have you read "American Nations"? Not the first work of its kind, but reading it made me think of the currents of society differently. The complete annihilation in all but name of the Party of Lincoln lends some credibility to its claim of human-geographical-societal roots.

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        3. Daniel Farina‏ @danfarina Oct 12
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          Notably, a strip of land across the coast of the North-West spanning Monterey to Juneau was re-settled by ship by infamously prescriptive New Englanders. And here we are, imposing soda taxes and banning sale of flavored tobaccos...

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        4. Daniel Farina‏ @danfarina Oct 12
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          ...maybe we have more in common with Vermont-origin Mormons in Salt Lake City than we might otherwise think. In some ways, it's already aberrant.https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865676269/Could-Utah-become-a-blue-state-Why-expert-Nate-Silver-says-it-already-is.html …

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        2. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson Oct 12
          Replying to @Noahpinion

          Basically, your own analysis belies the actual importance of this book. It's pretty fundamental for anybody who wants to understand the historical origins of our much of present conflict and I recommend it regularly.

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        3. Ethan Winter‏ @EthanBWinter Oct 12
          Replying to @yeselson @Noahpinion

          Along those lines do you have any recommendations for a good political history of the immediate postwar era through the 1950s. Focusing on how this idea of "liberal consensus" was formed? (This is a total shot in the dark)

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        4. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson Oct 12
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          Yeah, lots of articles in the literature, but this is a great book on exactly that subject:https://www.amazon.com/Inventing-American-Way-Politics-Consensus/dp/019539240X …

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        5. Ethan Winter‏ @EthanBWinter Oct 12
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          Oh thank you so much. I really appreciate it.

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        6. Richard Yeselson‏ @yeselson Oct 12
          Replying to @EthanBWinter @Noahpinion

          Sure thing--it's a terrific book.

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        1. ssgslack‏ @ssgslack Oct 13
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          It will become a non-issue as mixed-marriages are on the rise.

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