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Bloomberg Opinion writer. Elected "top neoliberal shill" of 2018. Occasionally posts anime gifs.

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    Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 12

    Noah Smith Retweeted Antonio García Martínez

    I can think of lots of counterexamples to this. But it does seem to be a problem right now; the Right has done a better job of uniting than the Left, in America. I'm *definitely* reminded of Homage to Catalonia.https://twitter.com/antoniogm/status/1050787530100985856 …

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    Antonio García MartínezVerified account @antoniogm
    Every left/right political clash devolves into a re-enactment of Orwell's 'Homage to Catalonia' and the Spanish Civil War: The left consumes itself in infighting and ideological purity tests, and the right, united behind flag and church, marches right through them.
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      1. knuckles‏ @knuckles_music Oct 12
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        I think about this a lot. Felt very much like history repeating/rhyming when listening to @mikeduncan masterfully explain the 1848 revolutions. Seems to me a fundamental issue that the status quo is one thing, but every person wanting change is ‘unhappy in their own way’

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      1. Jimmy Sands‏ @JimmyHSands Oct 12
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        I forget who said it, but there is an old adage that the right looks for converts and the left looks for traitors.

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      1. rain  🌧️  🏳️‍🌈‏ @sunshowers6 Oct 12
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        You mean a white nationalist party has done a better job uniting white people than the party of everyone else has done uniting everyone else? Hmm, wonder why that would happen 🤔

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      2. Craig Duncan‏ @cduncan123 Oct 12
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        Isn't it typically easier for conservatives to unite? Many conservatives are defenders of the status quo; they agree on "No change." Liberals want change. But some libs say, "Change to A," others "Change to B," etc., and disunity can easily result.

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      1. Chris Pope‏ @CPopeHC Oct 12
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        it's a feature of the opposition party, not the left. the GOP had all kinds of internal chaos during the Obama years

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      1. Paddy Carter‏ @CarterPaddy Oct 12
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        I don't know how much truth there is to this old People's Front of Judea gag, but if true it does seem awkward for those whose economic model requires effective cooperation.

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      2. Jon‏ @JonEHecht Oct 12
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        While the electoral field is not the totality of the left (part of their problem), I'd say that the current Democratic party is a lot more united than the Republican one. In my own district, the GOP primary loser still hasn't endorsed the House candidate.

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      3. Blaze_Runner_20420‏ @20420Blaze Oct 12
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        Wishful thinking. They may get nasty with each other but when it counts they move in lock-step. Think of all the Republicans who hate trump but voted for him anyway. Think of Kavanaugh, an incredibly unpopular nominee and yet the Senate confirmed him.

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      4. Jon‏ @JonEHecht Oct 12
        Replying to @20420Blaze @Noahpinion

        Fair point. On the other hand, I see nothing to suggest that the Democratic party in 2018 is consumed by petty fights. The same amount of GOP senators broke ranks on Kavanaugh as Dems. And Dem voters seem fired up no matter whether their favored candidate won primaries.

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      5. Blaze_Runner_20420‏ @20420Blaze Oct 12
        Replying to @JonEHecht @Noahpinion

        There was a pretty contentious fight for DNC chair which Obama big-footed to get Tom Perez elected. We have Obama’s snubbing Ocasio-Cortez by not endorsing her. There is plenty of petty shit all around. The party is far from healing the rift that DWS opened up in 2016.

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      1. Thomas Kaempfen‏ @ThomasKaempfen Oct 12
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        It's because the Right consists of resent white people, while the Left is a collection of interest groups: blacks, Hispanics, feminists, gays, etc. whose interests sometimes clash and whose only real cohering force is opposition to the Right.

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      1. John Chapman‏ @canyonliveoak Oct 12
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        The right also has a lot more weapons.

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      1. John Meredith‏ @TorquilMacneil Oct 12
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        Right and left are both broad coalitions but the right agrees on fundamentals while the left doesn't. This was very clear in Spain 36-9.

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      1. Shuan Rose 🇯🇲 🌎 🇺🇸‏ @shmr50 Oct 12
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        A united Democratic Party wins the Presidency and maybe the Senate in 2016. A united left pulls Gore across the finish line in Florida in 2000. And then back in time there is the 1968 Democratic self immolation. Yep, I guess you could say the left has been it's own worst enemy

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      1. Count Florin‏ @gitrithm Oct 12
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        Conservative think tanks have produced long range strategies that are flexible enough to accommodate the likes of Trump. The left appears to be as @antoniogm suggests.

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      1. Molly McGuire‏ @LiberalMolly1 Oct 12
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        right wingers are authoritarians.. there are 2 kinds. the leaders the followers.. Liberals/ Dems don't have that personality type. We don't fall in line.. we think.

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      1. Dimestore Publius‏ @Xeynon Oct 12
        Replying to @Noahpinion

        Case in point: Democrats were pretty united behind Obama in 2008. The alliance between left and center-left ruptured when he inevitably had to side with one of them in exercising power. GOP could be in a similar place now to where it was in 2004-2006 when it started fracturing.

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      1. Dimestore Publius‏ @Xeynon Oct 12
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        In the US I think it’s an electoral cycle thing, not a left/right thing. Being out of power tends to forge coalitions b/c people get sick of losing elections and overlook differences to win. Being in power fractures them due to disagreement about dividing up spoils.

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      1. Craig Ogawa‏ @craigaroo Oct 12
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        The premise is ridiculously flawed: the Right in this country is ideologically unified and has already gone through its period of infighting and purity tests. There's no lesson to be drawn here. Except for madmen.

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