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Bloomberg Opinion writer. Elected "top neoliberal shill" of 2018. Occasionally posts anime gifs.

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    1. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 11

      Noah Smith Retweeted The Atlantic

      "Competitive wokeness", like "virtue signaling" and "preference falsification", seems to be something people on the right say in order to pretend that people on the left don't really believe what they claim to believe.https://twitter.com/TheAtlantic/status/1050424810591936512 …

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      The AtlanticVerified account @TheAtlantic
      "She now finds herself in the uppermost echelons of the culture industries, where woke liberalism is de rigueur and departures from it are stigmatized." @reihan on Taylor Swift's swing towards politics: http://on.theatln.tc/0wAuukC 
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    2. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 11

      Basically we have a whole bunch of ways of saying "You can't possibly believe that!!". Which helps us avoid the terrifying fact that yes, people generally do believe it.

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    3. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 11

      Of course, "believe" doesn't mean what it means in econ class. It means that people get a warm feeling from asserting something, even if they don't know what it means. "God is omnipotent", etc.

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    4. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 11

      A lot of times we believe extreme things, simply because asserting those things all together in a group gives us a warm feeling of having an army on our side. It's not competitive wokeness. It's COOPERATIVE wokeness.

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    5. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 11

      "Virtue signaling" isn't fake or pretend. It's real. "Virtue", when it comes right down to it, means membership on a team. Sometimes, to prove you're on a team, it helps to say something people on the other team could never bring themselves to say.

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      Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 11

      That doesn't mean people don't believe the things they say when they signal team membership. They DO believe them. It's just that the "belief" is the rush of good feeling from knowing that you have a team.

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        2. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 11

          An extremist is just a normal person in extreme circumstances. And group conflict, be it an army or a gang or a political movement or a Twitter mob, is an extreme situation.

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        3. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 11

          All this is to say, if your mental model of the opposing team is that they're a bunch of fakers trying to show off in front of each other...well, odds are you're wrong. It's probably something much more honest, much more powerful, and potentially much scarier, than that. (end)

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        2. Humean Being‏ @MetaHumean Oct 11
          Replying to @Noahpinion

          Citations? I'm not a specialist in the philosophy of mind, but I'm petty sure that no philosophers of mind or cognitive scientists accept this account of belief.

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        3. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 11
          Replying to @MetaHumean

          Basically the Cultural Cognition theory. http://www.culturalcognition.net/ 

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        4. Humean Being‏ @MetaHumean Oct 11
          Replying to @Noahpinion

          Ok, I'm on board with a lot of this, but i think it's a mistake to say that a positive emotional state in social contexts is just what belief is. That's not what belief IS, that's what belief DOES. Belief is something like stable high credence.

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        5. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 11
          Replying to @MetaHumean

          What's "credence"?

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        6. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 11
          Replying to @Noahpinion @MetaHumean

          I mean, besides a rock band.

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        7. Humean Being‏ @MetaHumean Oct 11
          Replying to @Noahpinion

          It's a dispositional mental state. Part of the dispositions that characterize the mental state might be to have certain emotions in certain contexts, but don't confuse the cause and the effect. Saying that belief is a positive emotion in social contexts is like...

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        8. Humean Being‏ @MetaHumean Oct 11
          Replying to @MetaHumean @Noahpinion

          ...saying that water is dissolving salt. Same kind of category error. Belief is representational, and a purely affective account of belief can't account for the representational nature of belief.

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        9. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 11
          Replying to @MetaHumean

          None of the words you've said in response to my question makes any sense to me. "Dispositional mental state". "Representational". These mean nothing to me.

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        2. JediBear‏ @JediBearBob Oct 11
          Replying to @Noahpinion

          I do get ever so irritated at people repeating their tribal identity signals as if they're policy ideas though.

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        3. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 11
          Replying to @JediBearBob

          They are policy ideas.

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        1. Teresa‏ @weltboo Oct 12
          Replying to @Noahpinion

          You can't take just anything and call it "belief". If the original premise is people are saying things they know are false because it affects their ingroup status, you're just reinforcing that.

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        1. A̶n̶d̶y̶ B̶o̶b̶r̶o̶w̶‏Verified account @abobrow Oct 11
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          What's funny to me is that when someone announces that they hate virtue signalling, they are signalling a virtue to their own tribe. The virtue of hating virtue signalling.

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        1. Conrad‏ @Conrguy Oct 11
          Replying to @Noahpinion

          Sometimes. But too often we see examples of woke male feminists sexually assaulting/harrasing women. Maybe this is an example of projecting rather than VS, but it's hard to argue they believe the things they say in these instances

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        1. A_Suburbian‏ @ASuburbian Oct 11
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          You're making an unwarranted assumption that everyone who says "woke" things and purports to support "woke" policies does in fact believe those "woke" things. Exhibit A:https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/harvey-weinstein-and-the-danger-of-performative-wokeness_us_59d6b43be4b0f6eed34f421e …

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        1. Trave‏ @tjz514 Oct 11
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          I agree with all of this, but I also think it's helpful to point out that the act of discrediting frees up the accusers from any guilt they had in the critiqued conduct.

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