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Bloomberg Opinion writer. Elected "top neoliberal shill" of 2018. Occasionally posts anime gifs.

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    1. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 11

      Noah Smith Retweeted The Atlantic

      "Competitive wokeness", like "virtue signaling" and "preference falsification", seems to be something people on the right say in order to pretend that people on the left don't really believe what they claim to believe.https://twitter.com/TheAtlantic/status/1050424810591936512 …

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      The AtlanticVerified account @TheAtlantic
      "She now finds herself in the uppermost echelons of the culture industries, where woke liberalism is de rigueur and departures from it are stigmatized." @reihan on Taylor Swift's swing towards politics: http://on.theatln.tc/0wAuukC 
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    2. Timothy B. Lee‏Verified account @binarybits Oct 11
      Replying to @Noahpinion

      Do you doubt that the social and professional pressures @reihan describes are significant? They certainly have an impact on what I say and write (and choose not to talk or write about).

      4 replies 0 retweets 16 likes
    3. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 11
      Replying to @binarybits @reihan

      I think that there are probably a few people out there claiming to be much more liberal than they really are, but that usually they're media people doing this strategically and cynically. Most people respond to social pressure by just shutting up, I think.

      5 replies 0 retweets 31 likes
      Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 11
      Replying to @Noahpinion @binarybits @reihan

      I think that most online wokeness is expression of real grievances that people had been holding in for a long time, and that it's social media, not peer pressure, that causes those expressions to be over-dramatic and exaggerated. cc @juliagalef

      11:24 AM - 11 Oct 2018
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        2. Matt Diamond‏ @mattdiamond Oct 11
          Replying to @Noahpinion @binarybits and

          I guess I’m confused why you would draw a line between “social media” and “peer pressure”, as if the latter wasn’t a dominant factor in the former... isn’t peer pressure *amplified* by social media? You might not care what you say to 5 people, but 5000...

          2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
        3. you can turn caps off‏ @blkmkts Oct 11
          Replying to @mattdiamond @Noahpinion and

          5 people are your peers, 5000 people are not

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        4. Matt Diamond‏ @mattdiamond Oct 11
          Replying to @blkmkts @Noahpinion and

          I think you're confusing "friends" with "peers", as well as underestimating how much human beings care about what other people think of them, especially when those people are seen as part of the same peer group (which, again, is not the same as one's circle of friends)

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        5. Matt Diamond‏ @mattdiamond Oct 11
          Replying to @mattdiamond @blkmkts and

          "one belonging to the same societal group especially based on age, grade, or status" 5000 people can definitely be your peers... even 50,000 or 5 millionhttps://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/peer 

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        6. Matt Diamond‏ @mattdiamond Oct 11
          Replying to @mattdiamond @blkmkts and

          I understand your confusion though... prior to the advent of social media, most people weren't interacting with that many of their peers. But this is exactly the dynamic that social media has changed, enabling communication with much larger numbers of people from our peer group.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        7. Matt Diamond‏ @mattdiamond Oct 11
          Replying to @mattdiamond @blkmkts and

          In 1988, it would be crazy to think that a random teenager could easily broadcast a message to five hundred other teenagers and get immediate responses. Thirty years later, any teenager with a large enough following on Twitter is doing just that on a regular basis.

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        1. Laura J. Mixon‏ @LauraJMG Oct 12
          Replying to @Noahpinion @binarybits and

          I think you’re onto something, here.

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        1. Smoke and Mirrors‏ @Smoke___Mirror Oct 11
          Replying to @Noahpinion @binarybits and

          I think you are making far too much of a difference between "being" and "saying". Wokeness is performative. You really think people who "say" they're liberal don't mistreat their Latinx domestics?

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