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Bloomberg Opinion writer. Elected "top neoliberal shill" of 2018. Occasionally posts anime gifs.

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    1. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 11

      1/I reviewed @reihan Salam's "Melting Pot or Civil War?" for Foreign Affairs:https://www.foreignaffairs.com/reviews/review-essay/2018-10-11/should-america-cut-low-skilled-immigration?gpp=LIdllm9bW3aj3/NdALeqADp1VU0zOS9kaldqMjViQ0xmWUMvRy9Ob2tiaElqMjFJR0Vwcm5rbUtCTEttTVFIT3BUaHpDT3dnUnBOSnlGaGxIOmY1N2FhMTFlNGVhNDE4Njk1YzFjYWIxY2MwMjM1YzA1ZTk1NTc3OWExOWI4N2VlMzhkZTk5YWM1NWU5NGFhNDQ%3D …

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    2. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 11

      2/This book is the best case for immigration restriction that you're likely to read anytime soon!pic.twitter.com/eudmgtYTYf

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    3. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 11

      3/Salam's basic case for restricting low-skilled immigration is this: 1. The descendants of low-skilled immigrants will form a permanent economic underclass (thanks in part to automation and globalization). 2. That underclass will lead to racial tensions.pic.twitter.com/XEURW5MujS

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      Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 11

      4/Salam's solution: Stop low-skilled immigration and let in high-skilled immigrants instead. They and their descendants will get good jobs and make plenty of money, thus easing their integration with the rest of America and creating a melting pot.pic.twitter.com/xZbKoOZEbr

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        2. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 11

          5/Salam's argument has three big advantages over the typical restrictionist case: 1. It's not based on racism, overtly or covertly. 2. Salam is extremely well-informed about the facts of the issue. 3. Shifting toward skilled immigration is good policy.pic.twitter.com/ekIcJVrSYZ

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        3. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 11

          6/BUT, I have some problems with Salam's case. First, the idea that low-skilled immigration will lead to increased racial tensions seems to contradict the experience of anyone who has seen the changes in L.A., San Diego, NYC, Houston, or other immigration-heavy cities.pic.twitter.com/SmUGoyp4aC

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        4. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 11

          7/Second, low-skilled immigration to the U.S. has already collapsed. Immigrants are increasingly well-educated. So this just doesn't seem like an urgent problem. We took in lots of low-skilled immigrants in the 90s and early 2000s, and what's done is done.pic.twitter.com/nemp14KIuj

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        5. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 11

          8/Like Reihan, I favor a skills-based immigration system that also allows family reunification, like the one Canada uses. But my case for it relies a lot more on direct economic benefits, and less on prophecies of race war! (end)

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        6. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 11

          Oh, and you can buy the book here:https://www.amazon.com/Melting-Pot-Civil-War-Immigrants/dp/0735216274 …

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        2. Tarquin Holmes‏ @TarquinHH Oct 11
          Replying to @Noahpinion

          And if high skilled immigrants get pushed into low skilled jobs due to discrimination and loss of opportunity (given the personnel demands of the economy are changeable), what then?

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        3. Noah Smith‏Verified account @Noahpinion Oct 11
          Replying to @TarquinHH

          Hasn't happened so far!

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        2. Sri Thiruvadanthai‏ @teasri Oct 11
          Replying to @Noahpinion

          High skilled immigrants tend to have below replacement fertility. That plus intermarriage means that they are not factor. Somebody posted a chart showing Asian American kids in school already dropping.

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        3. Keerthik Sasidharan‏Verified account @KS1729 Oct 11
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          When I was at Bear Stearns, the legendary Ace Greenberg gave us our welcome speech and said, he wanted PSDs for employees. I thought he misspoke for PhD. Then, as if intuiting what I was thinking, he said: PSDs were “Poor, Smart, & Desiring to be rich”. Wise words.

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        1. Johannes Admasie‏ @jadmasi Oct 11
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          New problem for Salam’s solution: 1. The descendants of high-skilled immigrants will form a permanent upper-middle class (thanks in part to automation and globalization). 2. That upper-middle class will lead to racial resentment.

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        1. KO_Sulli‏ @KO_Sulli Oct 11
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          This is so stupid. Answer: Pull in hard working folks. Their kids won’t be entitled and will similarly have a stronger work ethic (plus a little cushion). Their kids will get advanced degrees. Their kids will be spoiled, entitled as*holes...we’re f/ed either way.

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        1. Chad Chavez‏ @ChadAChavez Oct 11
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          Thus creating a permanent underclass of people of a different race then them and... oh no.

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