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Blockchain, cryptocurrency, and smart contracts pioneer. (RT/Fav/Follow does not imply endorsement). Blog: http://unenumerated.blogspot.com 

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    1. Parker Lewis‏ @parkeralewis 23 May 2018
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      Parker Lewis Retweeted Peter Schiff

      Bitcoin was never acting like a monetary safe haven. It has always been acting like an emergent monetary good - volatility / price discovery as a network increases by orders of magnitude. It's as if gold-bugs think gold was magically not volatile when it emerged as monetary good.https://twitter.com/PeterSchiff/status/999317444580859904 …

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      Peter Schiff @PeterSchiff
      #Bitcoin is no longer acting like a monetary safe haven. Despite all the turmoil in global currency markets, investors are fleeing from not to the digital currency. Bitcoin's safe haven status was purely a function of misplaced confidence. When confidence goes so will the status!
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    2. Roy Sebag‏Verified account @roysebag 24 May 2018
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      Replying to @parkeralewis

      Gold lack of volatility is derived from the laws of physics. Gold never "emerged as monetary good".... It unveiled itself as a commodity-money that lasted longest, was hardest to earn, and paid for its movement. Volatility comes from nature. The rate of decay/diminishing utility

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    3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 24 May 2018
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      Replying to @roysebag @parkeralewis

      Wrong.

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      Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 24 May 2018
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      Replying to @NickSzabo4 @roysebag @parkeralewis

      The process of "unveiling itself", or reducing the uncertainty & increasing the shared knowledge about its nature & utility, that gold undoubtedly underwent in its early decades is just the process Lewis is referring to in Bitcoin. volatility = f(uncertainty, exchange).

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        2. Roy Sebag‏Verified account @roysebag 24 May 2018
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          That may be so but this doesn't change the basic fundamentals of WHY gold over everything else. The WHY is due to natural law, physics, chemistry, crustal abundance, geology, whatever you want to call it. The measurement of volatility = the measurement of relative decay.

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        3. Roy Sebag‏Verified account @roysebag 24 May 2018
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          And I would argue that there is no written proof that gold ever needed "time" to emerge as a monetary commodity. What we see is a simultaneous ascension of commodity and money. Therefore, your postulate that "gold undoubtedly underwent in early decades" is speculation Nick.

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        4. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 24 May 2018
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          Haha yes let's look for written proof of how valuable the first gold artifacts were, at least a thousand years before writing was invented. :-)pic.twitter.com/QgXB3qnb0P

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        5. Roy Sebag‏Verified account @roysebag 24 May 2018
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          :) That's the problem though isn't it? Don't you find it a bit perplexing that we have to rely on theoretical postulates ie: "Deep History" by Lord-Smail or Graeber, to believe in this "ascension" theory of commodities? You sort of have to believe in the whole "Standard Model"...

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        6. Roy Sebag‏Verified account @roysebag 24 May 2018
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          1/2 Would it not be equally logical to postulate that: Gold has always been the premier commodity money since the at least the dawn of written history? And that the ratios between geology and free markets have reconciled since? Gold/Silver Gold/Copper etc. Bitcoin is something..

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        7. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 24 May 2018
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          There was already over a millennium of experience with gold before it appeared in written records, so what those records say about it say is irrelevant to the uncertainty surrounding its use during its first few decades, which common sense tells us would have been quite high.

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        8. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 24 May 2018
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          Uncertainty was so high, indeed, that shell-using cultures almost always ignored gold dust & nuggets in their environment (e.g. indigenous cultures of California). Was highly improbable event when Danubians started supplementing shell beads with gold beads, and then kept at it.

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        9. Roy Sebag‏Verified account @roysebag 24 May 2018
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          I think evidence of some cultures ignoring gold doesn't detract from the mystery of why it appears MOST cultures through varying epochs/geographies overwhelmingly VALUED it, based on its natural characteristics. The key here is overwhelming majority.

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