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Blockchain, cryptocurrency, and smart contracts pioneer. (RT/Fav/Follow does not imply endorsement). Blog: http://unenumerated.blogspot.com 

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    1. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 3 May 2018
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      Nick Szabo  🔑 Retweeted Bruce Fenton

      Tokenization of off-chain things trust-minimizes only transfer of title. Short of entangled proplets http://www.fon.hum.uva.nl/rob/Courses/InformationInSpeech/CDROM/Literature/LOTwinterschool2006/szabo.best.vwh.net/proplets.html … it doesn't do anything about actual control of the actual off-chain assets; it doesn't even guarantee respect for the title. h/t @eric_lombrozo's tanks.https://twitter.com/brucefenton/status/992023735141101569 …

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      Bruce Fenton @brucefenton
      Cash is only 1/3 of the world’s wealth. If Bitcoin becomes a global reserve currency even with 100% market share it still leaves 2/3 of the wealth of humans captive with third parties. Tokenization of securities & deeds places control of the assets into the hands of the owners.
      13 replies 41 retweets 190 likes
    2. Bruce Fenton‏ @brucefenton 3 May 2018
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      Replying to @NickSzabo4 @eric_lombrozo

      It’s not solving for that. It’s solving for making assets much easier to move and control. Right now it takes 2-3 weeks to move stocks between brokers - a tokenized asset can be moved in minutes.

      5 replies 1 retweet 13 likes
      Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 3 May 2018
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      Replying to @brucefenton @eric_lombrozo

      Move title to yes, otherwise control no (at least, not without quite a bit of additional trust-minimized code, including code I have been designed and have had a team work on).

      1:48 PM - 3 May 2018
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        2. Gavin Belson‏ @bitboer 3 May 2018
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @brucefenton @eric_lombrozo

          If the ownership of your car is registered on a blockchain, but you loose your private key, you don't lose your car. And none else can claim it. Selling it becomes a problem though, since you cannot prove that you own it. Very big issue for most potential use cases.

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        3. Daniel Ƀ‏ @csuwildcat 3 May 2018
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          *Ding ding ding* We have a winner!https://twitter.com/csuwildcat/status/987605086703513600?s=19 …

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          Daniel Ƀ @csuwildcat
          Replying to @TheStalwart @alansilbert
          It's not even about forking or the decentralized state of the underlying chain, it's about tangible property tokenization being a fundamentally broken model in the vast majority of cases. Here's a cold shower for anyone who needs to sober up: https://twitter.com/csuwildcat/status/985145905044062208?s=19 …
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        1. Martin Urbina‏ @Dransirnia 3 May 2018
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @brucefenton @eric_lombrozo

          tanks for the bitcoin mr Szabo!

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        1. The Token Tribunal‏ @Esmussein 3 May 2018
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @brucefenton @eric_lombrozo

          Does this still hold true with respect to a number of securities though? They represent ownership of something tangible (sometimes) but the security itself is often intangible, which makes them more appropriate for tokenization beyond title transfer it seems to me.

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        2. John Snow‏ @MtGoxTrustE 3 Dec 2018
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          Replying to @Ragnarly @NickSzabo4 and

          "Please solve our problem for us since we have found it is not solvable, thanks!"

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