This thread isn't about your theories of social currencies.
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Replying to @NickSzabo4 @davidgraeber and
nor is it about your vision of world history and compounding fallacies; you can't just pillage the ethnographic record to create a Misesian diagram, over and over again.
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Replying to @opensorceguinea @davidgraeber and
That's not what I'm doing, but even if it was why could I not? The record of traveler, missionary, and ethnographic accounts is not and should never be considered the monopoly of only certain specific academic ideologies.
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Replying to @NickSzabo4 @davidgraeber and
true, respekt, but "unforgeable costliness and trust minimization" don't "explain the unique two-collectible kula cycle", programmatic language is 'costly' analytically. our only supposition is that society is social, not based on 'good contracts' between 1:1 all the way up&down
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Replying to @opensorceguinea @davidgraeber and
"Society is social" wow there's a theory you can really pin down. "-)
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Replying to @NickSzabo4 @davidgraeber and
theres 100x rich social theories to choose from, form marx's social relations to Mauss's social contracts to latour's association of collectives, what's impoverishing and damaging is asocial or asi theory; atomism, self-preservation and paranoia.
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Replying to @opensorceguinea @davidgraeber and
In fact, trust minimizing institutions and technologies are crucial to expanding human relationships beyond the clan level. Much of this moral primitivism you cite, when applied to much larger societies, would or have lead to barbarity, e.g. of communist states.
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Replying to @NickSzabo4 @davidgraeber and
like exogamic marriage, always already interclan, it was about giving gifts to the inlaws, gifts that at some point after capitalism included commodities, like beads from liverpool. on moral primitivism' and intellectual bankruptcy see the bruce lee meme:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWfOACOe3Fg …
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Replying to @opensorceguinea @davidgraeber and
"Giving gifts." Akin to anthropology books titled "The Children of X." As if they were just innocent kids dancing around Christmas trees and we should be more like them. "Gift" is lazy translation of thousands of unique indigenous words describing usually obligatory transfers.
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Replying to @NickSzabo4 @opensorceguinea and
FYI
@davidgraeber is also critical of the gift theory. My general takeaway from his book is that money, like debt, originated as a material and quantifiable formalization of trust relationships. So not really sure how it’s different from your view at a high level.1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
Good to hear. Our disagreements are likely 1) how seriously we take small definitional distinctions, (2) role of evolution, 3) moral & political lessons we draw, 4) he doesn't know what my theories actually are & is attacking strawmen (I'm no big expert on his theories either).
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