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    Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 13 Feb 2018
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    Applying the word "governance" to the residual human decision-making needed for public blockchains carries, as the term is thought of by non-developers, tons of baggage that is irrelevant to the only necessary category of such decisions, namely decisions about upgrading software.

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      2. Cynthia Gayton‏ @squizzi 13 Feb 2018
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        What do you think the proper definition/use of the term "governance" for public blockchains? Because apparently "governance" does not mean compliance with decisions backed by enforcement.

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      3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 13 Feb 2018
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        It's too hopelessly broad of a term, it can be made to mean almost anything. Its use doesn't shed any light on the actual residual human decision-making that is needed.

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      4. Cynthia Gayton‏ @squizzi 13 Feb 2018
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        True.

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      5. Jim Harper‏ @Jim_Harper 13 Feb 2018
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        I love semantics (sincerely!). Govern, from Greek kubernan "to steer," seems about right to me. And "upgrading software" IMO doesn't convey quite the import when the software determines significant real-world incentives and thus outcomes. Eh?

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      6. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 13 Feb 2018
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        The necessary decisions are much more akin to designing a boat than to steering it.

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      7. Michael Goldstein‏ @bitstein 13 Feb 2018
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        Please write a blog post on this! Very important topic that deserves careful nuanced analysis.

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      2. Max Keiser, tweet poet.‏ @maxkeiser 13 Feb 2018
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        Agreed: Use of residual term “governance” is archaic like ‘mining’ and ‘wallet.’ In the case of DASH though, the split mining output gets voted on - how to spend it - so kind of makes sense linguistically (if one is a DASH fan).

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      1. Christian Catalini‏Verified account @ccatalini 13 Feb 2018
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        As public blockchains evolve upgrades may also involve fine-tuning of incentives, which may call for more complex forms of "governance" to offer the possibility for voice, not just exit.

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      1. Alex Norman‏ @alexsnorman 13 Feb 2018
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        Agree 100%. With many would be revolutionary blockchain platforms, human decision making is still a necessary component of off chain value creation, something that purely technical founders seem to overlook.

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      1. Ani Huettemann‏ @ani_htn 13 Feb 2018
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        I agree, it is ultimately about a software update, but it is also about how transparent this happens and in which form. Exit through forking? On chain or off chain?

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      1. sudoscript‏ @sudo_script 13 Feb 2018
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        What do you mean by "residual"? Deciding about software upgrades seems not much different than deciding about law upgrades

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      1. Johnny‏ @cryptopvv 13 Feb 2018
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        I always upgrade my software....pic.twitter.com/tSP0Ivb4ol

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      1. WorldCoiner‏ @buddhacoiner 13 Feb 2018
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        Is this code for 'the sheep need to be led'?

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      1. Adam Tebble‏ @AdamTebble 13 Feb 2018
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        2/2 Which makes me think: perhaps the important philosophical question is whether such a regulatory apparatus can be achieved entirely endogenously ("software upgrades"), or wether it will also have to be via at least some necessarily exogenous elements ("governance")?

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      2. zawy‏ @zawy3 13 Feb 2018
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        Is this a subtle warning to devs about what the public thinks of the word? What do devs think "governance" means? Do devs think they are government officials and/or constitution writers?

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