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    1. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 4 Jan 2018
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      Domesticated dogs and pottery appear to have both originated in East Asia. suspect dogs served as an alarm system for village-size territories and thereby allowed secure long-term food storage, thus the later invention of pottery. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4816135/pdf/cr2015147a.pdf …http://science.sciencemag.org/content/336/6089/1696 …

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      Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 4 Jan 2018
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      The spread of pottery parallels the spread of vermin rodents. Early pottery was likely a response to rats or mice gnawing through baskets to get at the food stored in early villages. http://biorxiv.org/content/early/2016/12/26/096800 … http://biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/early/2016/12/26/096800.full.pdf … http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/03/when-did-humans-settle-down-house-mouse-may-have-answer …https://www.palmstrading.com/native-american-pottery/native-seed-pots/ …

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        2. Lucas Gonze‏ @lucas_gonze 4 Jan 2018
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          Reading through those, I didn't find a reference to vermin rodents around this new date for the invention of pottery, 20K BCE. All the dates are far later. Yes? Is it there?

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        3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 4 Jan 2018
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          Per "Evolutionary history of the brown rat" the strain of that spread with trade (i.e. a vermin strain) existed uniquely in SE Asia until c. 3600 YA. Its ancestors thus lived there when pottery was invented c. 20K BCE. That they had evolved into vermin by then is my prediction.

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        2. Toby Sterling‏Verified account @lbsterling 4 Jan 2018
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          But the first article shows pottery predated agriculture by 10,000 years. Pottery is more useful for either cooking; or storing liquid. With grain, the trick is keeping it dry.

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        3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 4 Jan 2018
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          Some East Asian & Middle Eastern cultures were harvesting & storing wild grain well before agriculture. Grains and other seeds are vulnerable to vermin. And many other kinds of food (e.g. a gel-like mash of dried fish, berries, etc.) were made and stored by some pre-ag cultures.

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        4. Toby Sterling‏Verified account @lbsterling 4 Jan 2018
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          I have the memory, srry no citation, of Alcibiades hiding in a grainary shortly before his murder in e. Turkey in 404 b.c. No pots but a clever building design to prevent rodents

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        2. Paris Vega‏ @parisvega 5 Jan 2018
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          So once you've secured your storage from overt threats (using dogs), you must also secure from covert threats (using cats)

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        3. Paris Vega‏ @parisvega 5 Jan 2018
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          We've seen this exact sequence play out in our garden.

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