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Blockchain, cryptocurrency, and smart contracts pioneer. (RT/Fav/Follow does not imply endorsement). Blog: http://unenumerated.blogspot.com 

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    Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 30 Nov 2017
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    Bitcoin has or is evolving through several stages of value transfer: 1. small value transfers at layer 1 when Bitcoin was a tiny niche (10,000 BTC for a pizza) 2. larger value txs as wealth flow increases and small txs get priced out of layer 1 3. small value txs at layer 2https://twitter.com/NickSzabo4/status/936361211280502784 …

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    Nick Szabo  🔑 @NickSzabo4
    Replying to @JWWeatherman_ @WeathermanIam
    Economists' terminology is misleading though since "store" of value is impossible without benefit from transferring that value. Can be rare large rather than frequent small wealth transfers, so we might translate this as "large value transfers first, small value transfers later."
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      2. Cesar‏ @RealBitEstate 30 Nov 2017
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        Replying to @NickSzabo4

        Is Lightning Network layer 2? https://lightning.network/ 

        2 replies 1 retweet 18 likes
      3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 30 Nov 2017
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        Replying to @RealBitEstate

        It is a strong contender.

        3 replies 3 retweets 62 likes
      4. Brian Schuster‏ @SchusterDEV 30 Nov 2017
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        Replying to @NickSzabo4

        Are there any services you see besides Lightning that could fill the same need today?

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      5. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 30 Nov 2017
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        Replying to @SchusterDEV

        There are a wide variety of variations on its design, some of which may use collateral more efficiently or have better privacy.

        3 replies 2 retweets 23 likes
      6. Preston Pysh‏Verified account @PrestonPysh 30 Nov 2017
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        Replying to @NickSzabo4 @SchusterDEV

        Nick, how about your opinion on RSK. Is the network effect too strong with ETH for RSK to still emerge in a dominant way? ETH seems like a security disaster.

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      2. LuxusHub‏ @LuxusHub 30 Nov 2017
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        Replying to @NickSzabo4

        Why does the layer 2 need KYC/AML, and large centralized hubs? Doesn't sound that good to me.

        2 replies 1 retweet 2 likes
      3. Matt B‏ @gummatt 30 Nov 2017
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        Replying to @LuxusHub @NickSzabo4

        It doesn't you've been lied to

        1 reply 0 retweets 17 likes
      4. LuxusHub‏ @LuxusHub 30 Nov 2017
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        Replying to @gummatt @NickSzabo4

        Took this from a pro-lightning network article. It says it in black and white.pic.twitter.com/S0A21ARlKN

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      5. Matt B‏ @gummatt 30 Nov 2017
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        Replying to @LuxusHub @NickSzabo4

        You'll be able to run your own hub plus choose hubs too, imagine you're in a pub and that pub is a hub and everyone in the pub is using just that hub, they by 20 drinks a week, then at end of month they settle, 80 orders, one on chain. If you're fear innovation, simply don't use

        2 replies 0 retweets 13 likes
      6. LuxusHub‏ @LuxusHub 30 Nov 2017
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        Replying to @gummatt @NickSzabo4

        I am very open to change my mind about the lightning network. However it doesn't seem everyone would be able to open a payment channel. What do you say about this?pic.twitter.com/H6wJsnwq27

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      7. DiegoRod[ ⚡️][ 🔑]‏ @ytDiego 30 Nov 2017
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        Replying to @LuxusHub @gummatt @NickSzabo4

        If you want to compete with Fiat payment processors, layer two will be dominated by large hubs, similar to today's amex, discover, visa, mc, etc. The big difference however is that you and I can't start our own Fiat channels but we can start our own lightning nodes.

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      8. LuxusHub‏ @LuxusHub 30 Nov 2017
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        Replying to @ytDiego @gummatt @NickSzabo4

        How much will it cost to settle something on the blockchain though? I assume fees by then will be in the thousands of $. Won't that price out all smaller lightning node operators?

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      9. DiegoRod[ ⚡️][ 🔑]‏ @ytDiego 30 Nov 2017
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        Replying to @LuxusHub @gummatt @NickSzabo4

        If you push most transactions to L2 there will be less fees for onchain tx. Keep in mind their is a lot of fud related tx fee amounts, most of which have to do with inaccurate fee estimation algos. I personally only use custom fee, last text was 35 cents (paid for a haircut).

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      2. Randy Moish  🎃‏ @nondualrandy 30 Nov 2017
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        Replying to @NickSzabo4

        So you support bcash?

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      3. Matt B‏ @gummatt 30 Nov 2017
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        Replying to @nondualrandy @NickSzabo4

        he just spoke in favor layer 2

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      4. Felipe‏ @PhilCrypto77 30 Nov 2017
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        Replying to @gummatt @NickSzabo4

        I think you misunderstood the sarcasm lol

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      5. Matt B‏ @gummatt 30 Nov 2017
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        Replying to @PhilCrypto77 @NickSzabo4

        back in my day we did "/s" for fear of starting a WW3

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