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    1. Chris Cook‏ @cjenscook 10 Sep 2017
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      I don't think that's true of use value over time (utility) of land/location. Capitalised land value backs 2/3 of bank $ credit in existence

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    2. Josh Crumb  🔸‏ @JoshCrumb 10 Sep 2017
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      Replying to @cjenscook @saifedean and

      Disagree. Even land value (Ricardian rents) traced back to energy yield (minerals), or information yield (location, location; time/Eng arb)

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    3. Chris Cook‏ @cjenscook 10 Sep 2017
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      Replying to @JoshCrumb @saifedean and

      I think information yield leaves out a vast area of (admittedly subjective) value based on amenity, beauty, convenience yada yada

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    4. Josh Crumb  🔸‏ @JoshCrumb 10 Sep 2017
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      Replying to @cjenscook @saifedean and

      Good point. ..but that is information yield. I'm not saying good or bad, I highly value scenic quality of life.But secondary to energy needs

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    5. Chris Cook‏ @cjenscook 10 Sep 2017
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      Well, as previously stated, gold has an energy cost whereas energy may have a gold price but it does not have a gold cost

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    6. Edwardo‏ @ERM_62 10 Sep 2017
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      #Gold has *no energy cost* since any gold mining going forward is superfluous given the massive stock to flow = to 60 yrs of #Au production.

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    7. Josh Crumb  🔸‏ @JoshCrumb 10 Sep 2017
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      Replying to @ERM_62 @cjenscook and

      Show any period where gold sold tangibly below marginal cost.Theres no market proof of gold inventory liquidation;always duration pref buyer

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    8. Edwardo‏ @ERM_62 10 Sep 2017
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      My point is that there is no energy cost associated with gold going forward since there is massive above ground supply.

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    9. Josh Crumb  🔸‏ @JoshCrumb 10 Sep 2017
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      Replying to @ERM_62 @cjenscook and

      My point: thats theory w/no practical observation. All my views come from learning via market observation. Happy to be proven wrong (w/data)

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    10. Edwardo‏ @ERM_62 10 Sep 2017
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      Replying to @JoshCrumb @cjenscook and

      There's absolutely no theory involved in the matter. There does, in fact, exist many decades worth of above ground gold stock.

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      Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 10 Sep 2017
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      Replying to @ERM_62 @JoshCrumb and

      There are many costs in the world besides energy, and PoW, not just network effects, serve to constrain supply curve.

      1:34 PM - 10 Sep 2017
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        2. Chris Cook‏ @cjenscook 10 Sep 2017
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @ERM_62 and

          Only objective cost is energy (whether static/material & dynamic/immaterial) cost. All else (3D Space/Intellect) is a matter of demand

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        3. Josh Crumb  🔸‏ @JoshCrumb 10 Sep 2017
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          Replying to @cjenscook @NickSzabo4 and

          Exactly, Chris. I agree with Nick in short term, my question to start thread is about long term (store of value & predictability)

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        4. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 10 Sep 2017
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          Replying to @JoshCrumb @cjenscook and

          Long-term value depends on how minimized trust is, which depends mainly on dev team + minimization of governance.

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        5. Josh Crumb  🔸‏ @JoshCrumb 10 Sep 2017
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @cjenscook and

          Since Gold has universe as dev team, &trillions in decentralized capital in place to incentivize gov,I like its trust min & predictability:)

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        2. Chris Cook‏ @cjenscook 10 Sep 2017
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          Replying to @NickSzabo4 @ERM_62 and

          I can't see how Proof of (past) Work is a constraint on supply. A Promise of (future) Work is another matter.

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        3. Hassan Mirakhor‏ @MirakhorHassan 10 Sep 2017
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          Replying to @cjenscook @NickSzabo4 and

          Implies adherence to protocol. Protocol modulates supply. Past is indicator of future.

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