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    Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 26 Jul 2017
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    SEC tl;dr: TheDAO broke our regs like crazy, but we aren't going to do anything about it except write words to scare other people.

    2:24 PM - 26 Jul 2017
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      2. Ethan Ackerman‏ @CryptoEthan 26 Jul 2017
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        Replying to @NickSzabo4

        Hard to do something retroactively in a situation like this

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      3. Pierre Rochard‏ @pierre_rochard 26 Jul 2017
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        Impossible to do something prospectively. So is the government's only option to go after violators in the act?

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      4. Ethan Ackerman‏ @CryptoEthan 26 Jul 2017
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        Replying to @pierre_rochard @NickSzabo4

        No, but lay out clear criteria for what would happen in a situation like this going forward

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      5. Pierre Rochard‏ @pierre_rochard 26 Jul 2017
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        Replying to @CryptoEthan @NickSzabo4

        Those criteria have been around for a while, I learned them in an intro Law for Finance class in college.

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      2. Maksim Izmaylov  🌳‏ @kvakes 26 Jul 2017
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        The law should reflect what happens in the real world, not the other way around.

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      3. Maksim Izmaylov  🌳‏ @kvakes 26 Jul 2017
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        Funny that new types of blockchain governance aim to solve exactly that, the feedback loop of current systems is too slow.

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      4. Nelson M. Rosario‏ @NelsonMRosario 26 Jul 2017
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        The law should be slow, otherwise it's pointless.

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      5. Maksim Izmaylov  🌳‏ @kvakes 26 Jul 2017
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        Replying to @NelsonMRosario @NickSzabo4

        Please note that I said "too slow". Also very often law is just a wild uneducated guess with feedback time of several years.

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      6. Nelson M. Rosario‏ @NelsonMRosario 26 Jul 2017
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        Replying to @kvakes @NickSzabo4

        That's fair, however, how a technology impacts the real world is often not clear for several years.

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      7. Maksim Izmaylov  🌳‏ @kvakes 26 Jul 2017
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        Replying to @NelsonMRosario @NickSzabo4

        Hence the need for the new type of collaboration and governance.https://www.coindesk.com/world-economic-forum-publishes-blockchain-governance-taxonomy/ …

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      1. Nissa Szabo‏ @nisszab 26 Jul 2017
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        Will they make an example out of the next exchange to break SEC regs like crazy? I feel like they'll have to...

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      1. Manfred Karrer‏ @manfred_karrer 26 Jul 2017
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        Replying to @NickSzabo4

        ICO craziness was shouting very loud for the SEC, so no surprise. Collateral damage will go to others who have nothing to do greedy ICOs

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      1. Manfred Karrer‏ @manfred_karrer 26 Jul 2017
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        The crypto space should reflect their ethical standards which are basically non-existing for many ICO projects. Most are pure Ponzi and MLM

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      1. ~C4Chaos‏ @c4chaos 26 Jul 2017
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        @Beautyon_ i still remember the time when someone from Goldman Sachs went to jail for… oh, wait! 🤑

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      2. Doug Berman‏ @DougBermanLaw 27 Jul 2017
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        @NickSzabo4 is right. Aside fr/ newfangled blockchain, this looks like old fashioned public offering of a security. Tech doesn't change it.

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      3. Doug Berman‏ @DougBermanLaw 27 Jul 2017
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        In US: register under SEC regs, find an exemption or violate the law.

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      1. Big Nick Energy‏ @NickGrosz 26 Jul 2017
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        Exactly what I told my bosses this morning, nothing more than a formalized shot across the bow. I'm sure Clayton is buying like crazy rn.

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      1. Sir Jeffrey Lebowski‏ @Sir_Lebowski 27 Jul 2017
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        Monopolists gonna monopolize, regulators gonna regulate until they are irrelevant. Dollars gonna dollar until they are irrelevant. #Bitcoin

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      2. Colin  🐻d‏ @Vires_Num3ris 26 Jul 2017
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        Since there was little to no regulatory framework for this sector to begin with it is not surprising that a pass was given.

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      3. Colin  🐻d‏ @Vires_Num3ris 26 Jul 2017
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        Replying to @Vires_Num3ris @NickSzabo4

        From here on out though beware the long-arm of the law.

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