@gwern @cinnamon_carter Before first self-sufficient ecosystem there could only be random trials with RNA & proteins.
@gwern @cinnamon_carter It's not a niche if no organism has chemical ability to exploit it.
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@gwern@cinnamon_carter Niches that required photosynthesis, nitrogen fixing, and even many far simpler capabilities were unavailable. -
@NickSzabo4@cinnamon_carter Nevertheless, early Earth would have a great variety of organic chemicals to harvest. That is a big opportunity -
@gwern@cinnamon_carter What kinds of organics? What 150 base pair ecosystem could exploit them? Be specific stop hand-waving. -
@NickSzabo4@cinnamon_carter It would use the amino acids and nuclear acids floating around, you know that. The usual abiogenesis proposals. -
@gwern@cinnamon_carter A 150 base pair ecosystem can't catch, much less put to use, most of the amino & nuclear acids floating around. -
@NickSzabo4@cinnamon_carter Why does it need to catch to grow or spread or evolve w/o competition? Does not catching prove panspermia? -
@gwern@cinnamon_carter Many far more likely places in universe to find stable amino+nucleic acid soup than bombardment-era Earth. -
@NickSzabo4@cinnamon_carter Be that as it may, what does that have to do with linearity of genomes as clocks and that paper's model? - 17 more replies
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@NickSzabo4@cinnamon_carter And thus you see the pressure to rapidly expand and develop longer, more capable genomes. Anon-linear pressure. -
@gwern@cinnamon_carter "Pressure" is a silly metaphor. It's about (in)ability to exploit chemicals in the environment. -
@NickSzabo4@cinnamon_carter Pressure/selection relevant for long genomes. Again, viruses as extreme example demonstrating genomes!=clocks. -
@gwern@cinnamon_carter Viruses depend on metabolisms of vastly more complex organism. Terrible example. -
@NickSzabo4@cinnamon_carter Why exploit those genomes if there's no selection for shorter genomes?! You're totally missing the point.
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