@gwern @cinnamon_carter Positing leap from nothing to 4^(10^5) complexity prokaryote in short time is "a miracle occured here" assumption.
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Replying to @NickSzabo4
@gwern@cinnamon_carter Before first self-sufficient ecosystem there could only be random trials with RNA & proteins.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@gwern@cinnamon_carter P atoms in universe limit random trials of RNA at 1e6/second in parallel to << 10^92 in 10e10 yrs.1 reply 1 retweet 1 like -
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@gwern@cinnamon_carter Making efficiently compressed 150 base-pair organism may be feasible. For 200 base pairs << ~ 1/10^27.4 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@gwern@cinnamon_carter In other words, the first self-sustaining ecosystem had to be vastly simpler than efficiently compressed prokaryote.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @NickSzabo4
@NickSzabo4@cinnamon_carter True and irrelevant. Complexity of minimal life doesn't imply strict linearity of growth over all time!1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@gwern@cinnamon_carter The point is not strict linearity, the point is eliminate the hidden assumption of miraculously improbable events.2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@NickSzabo4@cinnamon_carter Huh? the point of that paper *is* strict linearity. It's whole model: assume linearity and project backwards.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@gwern@cinnamon_carter It posits a reasonable working assumption about complexity growth instead of hand-waving about "open niches".3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@NickSzabo4@cinnamon_carter If genomes are clocks and linear growth at all sensible, why aren't *all* genomes ever longer?1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
@gwern @cinnamon_carter It's overall pattern that reflects laws of probability and expense of genome (thus long-term efficient compression).
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