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    Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 16 Aug 2015
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    A much more reasonable block size proposal, following historical growth rates in a "limiting nutrient" resource:https://gist.github.com/sipa/c65665fc360ca7a176a6 …

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      2. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 16 Aug 2015
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        Bitcoin block size debate cf. Liebig's law of the minimum: growth is limited by the scarcest resource: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebig%27s_law_of_the_minimum …

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      3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 16 Aug 2015
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        Per law of minimum, the most relevant resources in Bitcoin block size debate are bandwidth bottlenecks & DRAM costs, not average bandwidth.

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      1. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 16 Aug 2015
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        @rbtkhn There are many ways folks can store all the money they want on a digital sidewalk. Don't turn Bitcoin into another one.

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      2. Justin Camarena‏ @juscamarena 16 Aug 2015
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        @NickSzabo4 I agree, but isn't it still way too conservative? I would think this is great if we did a one time jump to 4MB first.

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      3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 16 Aug 2015
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        @juscamarena A rapid block size increase is a huge security risk: a reckless act to be performing on a $4 billion system.

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      4. Washington Sanchez‏ @drwasho 16 Aug 2015
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        @NickSzabo4 An obstructive bottleneck that significantly delays or prevents sending transactions will be fatal to Bitcoin.

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      5. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 16 Aug 2015
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        @drwasho Attacks that create or take advantage of Internet bottlenecks are indeed Bitcoin's Achilles' heel.

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      6. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 16 Aug 2015
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        @drwasho Larger blocks relative to Internet bottlenecks => easier to attack Bitcoin (& hide attack in natural variation of bandwidth).

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      7. Washington Sanchez‏ @drwasho 16 Aug 2015
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        1/ @NickSzabo4 Larger blocks means fewer nodes capable of robust bandwidth for block propagation -> less decentralized, easier to attack.

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      2. Aquent‏ @Aquentys 16 Aug 2015
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        @NickSzabo4 Really? 2mb in 2 decades? under what justification? Everyone accepts bandwidth growth 30%, 1mb x 6 years x 30% is around 6.5mb

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      3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 16 Aug 2015
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        @Aquentys No: per Liebig's principle relevant costs are for bandwidth bottlenecks & DRAM costs, not avg. bandwidth.

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      4. Aquent‏ @Aquentys 16 Aug 2015
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        @NickSzabo4 There has been a huge debate so far, you can't just tweet blocksize should be 2mb in 2 decades. Maybe expand in full blog post?

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      1. Brad Armstrong‏ @Nvntr 16 Aug 2015
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        @NickSzabo4 Thanks for giving some good feedback and direction here Nick.

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      2. Jorge Stolfi‏ @JorgeStolfi 16 Aug 2015
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        .@NickSzabo4 And, besides, it is the size LIMIT, not the block size. The limit has been 1 MB since 2010, but blocks are still ~450 kB.

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      3. Doug‏ @docbtc 16 Aug 2015
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        @JorgeStolfi Blocks fill up all the time check @TradeBlock for a little and see for yourself. Is that 450KB number a running avg?

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      4. Jorge Stolfi‏ @JorgeStolfi 16 Aug 2015
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        .@docbtc @TradeBlock The capacity is less than 1 MB/bloc because of empty blocks (consequence of shortcuts that many miners use).

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      5. Doug‏ @docbtc 16 Aug 2015
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        @JorgeStolfi I've noticed most miners are trying to fill blocks. Most big pools and miners have come off 750kb default soft limit

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      6. Jorge Stolfi‏ @JorgeStolfi 16 Aug 2015
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        .@docbtc Yes, but there are still many empty blocks. Miners start mining before they get the full parent block, so they must mine empty.

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      1. Jorge Stolfi‏ @JorgeStolfi 16 Aug 2015
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        .@NickSzabo4 2017? The goal of that proposal wasn't to increase the size limit, but to prevent it.

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      1. gubatron‏ @gubatron 16 Aug 2015
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        @NickSzabo4 "It implements a series of block size steps, one every ~97 days" LOL. Dynamic blocksize limits FTWhttps://gist.github.com/gubatron/143e431ee01158f27db4 …

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