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Blockchain, cryptocurrency, and smart contracts pioneer. (RT/Fav/Follow does not imply endorsement). Blog: http://unenumerated.blogspot.com 

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    1. Keonne Rodriguez‏ @keonne 29 Nov 2014
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      Verify that JS code that @blockchain serves is identical to the code published on our Github http://blockchain-status.com/javascript_verifier …

      4 replies 20 retweets 14 likes
    2. Jeff Garzik‏Verified account @jgarzik 29 Nov 2014
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      Interesting problem: Build verifyable chain from PGP-signed git commit to each end user browser. Anyone working on that? @keonne @blockchain

      2 replies 9 retweets 11 likes
    3. Jeff Garzik‏Verified account @jgarzik 29 Nov 2014
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      Take trusted JS browser code execution to the next level. If "binaries" have moved to the browser, code there must be signed.

      1 reply 5 retweets 1 like
    4. Jeff Garzik‏Verified account @jgarzik 29 Nov 2014
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      SSL is woefully inadequate against large classes of MITM. Chain from PGP-signed git commit (etc.) to browser much more secure.

      4 replies 5 retweets 5 likes
    5. iang‏ @iang_fc 29 Nov 2014
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      @jgarzik To make PGP better, need also a reliance statement: ie you rely on PGP to say what, exactly? Not MITM'd? Not malware? Not private?

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 29 Nov 2014
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      @iang_fc @jgarzik This signing, SSL or PGP, would provide integrity of the channel from the signed code to browser -- no more than that.

      1 reply 3 retweets 2 likes
    7. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 29 Nov 2014
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      @iang_fc @jgarzik Previous schemes "failed" because we added expectations crypto doesn't actually provide, e.g. "identity" of source.

      2 replies 2 retweets 1 like
    8. iang‏ @iang_fc 29 Nov 2014
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      @NickSzabo4 @jgarzik users are rational, expect to rely on claims from "crypto". Without reliance, what's the point? What are we saying?

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      Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 29 Nov 2014
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      @iang_fc @jgarzik Stop making false claims. Just claim what the crypto actually does not what we wish it did or what signer "guarantees".

      4:19 PM - 29 Nov 2014
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        2. iang‏ @iang_fc 29 Nov 2014
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          @NickSzabo4 @jgarzik Yes but 'no false claims' is silence, users hear nothing. We need a positive claim, integrated, beyond crypto, holistic

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        3. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 29 Nov 2014
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          @iang_fc @jgarzik Not silence: crypto protects the syntactic content. A positive, true, and important, if harder to communicate, claim.

          3 replies 1 retweet 1 like
        4. iang‏ @iang_fc 29 Nov 2014
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          @NickSzabo4 @jgarzik If I sign over "I am when I semant" then I have to live or slide by the claim.

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        5. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 29 Nov 2014
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          @iang_fc @jgarzik "Live or die"? Who is going to kill you? Such wet semantics is motivated by human actions if at all: not by the crypto.

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        6. iang‏ @iang_fc 29 Nov 2014
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          @NickSzabo4 @jgarzik cf Karl Popper, in contract, I let my reputation die in my stead. Crypto captures, people judge.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        7. Nick Szabo  🔑‏ @NickSzabo4 29 Nov 2014
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          @iang_fc @jgarzik Reputation, like IDs, are local, insecure, and expensive vs. crypto & block chain global, secure & cheap.

          2 replies 2 retweets 1 like
        8. iang‏ @iang_fc 29 Nov 2014
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          @NickSzabo4 @jgarzik Yep, but my rep is the only one I've got! Built up over time by many small tx. Waiting to upload into the blockchain ;)

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        9. Andrew Miller  🦓 🦓 🦓‏ @socrates1024 29 Nov 2014
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          @iang_fc Your and @NickSzabo4 's reputation come from your writing and ideas over the years, not your tiny BTC transactions! @jgarzik

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